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Old 08-03-2013, 04:39 PM   #11
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One problem is that many 20 gauge guns are made on 12 gauge frames. In that case, might as well have the 12. That kind of defeats the purpose of having a 20. I believe that the best idea for a bird gun is a 16 gauge made on a 20 gauge frame. I have a couple of those and they are great to carry in the field all day and balance really well.

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for self defense, i read somewhere that the 20g delivers almost twice the stopping power of a 44mag. true or not, i dunno...but i think the 20g is an outstanding choice for HD.

for hunting, my 13 yr old nephew drops ducks with regularity with his 20.

its a great gauge imo...good compromise between load and recoil.

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for self defense, i read somewhere that the 20g delivers almost twice the stopping power of a 44mag. true or not, i dunno...but i think the 20g is an outstanding choice for HD.

for hunting, my 13 yr old nephew drops ducks with regularity with his 20.

its a great gauge imo...good compromise between load and recoil.
and at 20 feet or less, the distances most HD usage would probably be, and the proper ammo for the 20 ga., i doubt the BG will be able to tell any difference.
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i recently switched to a 20 gauge due to the fact my son shoots one,it makes it alot easier to share ammo in the field we both take down ducks and geese we also turkey,quail,pheasant and small game hunt with them and have yet to have a problem taking down game.
i also use my sons shotgun as a home defense gun due to its size and it accepts 3'' shells has interchangable chokes and will due the job as good as any 12 guage.

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and at 20 feet or less, the distances most HD usage would probably be, and the proper ammo for the 20 ga., i doubt the BG will be able to tell any difference.
i certainly agree. throw 3 or 4 buck in there, and you'd be GTG. i'd venture to say a 20g will be at least as effective as any handgun on the market for HD. my comfort level with a shotgun vs handgun makes the pepper gun my choice for HD.
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Wife and I were thinking of getting a .410 shotgun just because we could share ammo with the S&W Governor that we plan to buy. But several gun shops and now this thread have convinced us to go 20GA. We have a 12GA and she can shoot it but it's a bit much for her to do multiple rounds when practicing/plinking. Remington makes a 20GA pump that holds 7 rounds. That should take care of HD just fine.

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The 12 ga has an advantage with versitility. Super light loads (7/8 oz) barely kick at all. 3" or even 3 1/2" for the geese or bears.

20 ga does not have quite the range of ammo selection available.

12 ga guns are generally heavier (built on larger frames). NOTHING wrong with a 20. I got one for my prettier half and she enjoys it.

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Been thinking about getting a youth model 20 gage of an 870 or 590 as an alternative to the standard 12 gage so that it's easier for the lady to handle.

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This is what I recommend to my students of small stature. I got one for my wife, youth model Mossburg. I found a 20 pellet #3 buckshot load for home defense. She does not hunt so home defense is the primary use. But if she did hunt it would be a great choice. If you can find a youth model H&R partner I would recommend it.
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At close range there's not a ton of difference, Now if you are zombie killing at 25 yards than the 12 is hands down better with having the selection of 00 and 000 buckshot.

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Other than 3-1/2" Magnum Loads, they make whatever you see in 12ga for the 20ga.
I own a Rem 870 in 20ga, and with Full Choke, It's deadly up to 40yds using 6-1/2 shot. Over that, it gets to be too large a pattern, at least for Turkey, when you are wanting to concentrate with a tight pattern.
For Birds it'll reach easily to 50yds no problem, but it is pushing it.
So if this is gonna be for HD, you'll have absolutely no problems if you feel the BG is too close.
What I would do is get the Youth Model which has a shorter Barrel, with adjustable Shoulder Stock to give a "best of fit" as possible, without going to a Custom Stock.

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