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Old 02-20-2014, 01:51 AM   #51
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FWIW if it is to be a home defense tool and God forbid you have to use it a jury will probally treat you better if you have a plain jane shotgun of any variety than some craptical thing that looks like it is from the Terminator movies. I keep a Benelli Nova with an 18.5 inch turkey barrel and mag extension loaded with 3.5 number 5 Heavy Shot Turkey loads. If I have to go to court I hopefully come across as a typical guy who defended his property as opposed well a mall ninja.
QFT! I have always said that if you keep it simple the chances of something failing in a critical moment go down astronomically.

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Yea, and unless you work for some LE agency and your weapon will serve both purposes, keep it simple and void of any insignias like The Punisher or Grim Reaper. That'll get you questioned in court as well.



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Don't count out a nice short double barrel. The old Savage 311A is a GREAT hd weapon. That short action make it several inches shorter than a pump or semi, and thus easier to manipulate indoors.

They're also very quick to reload.

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If you need more than two rounds of 00 across the bedroom, you've got a bigger problem than your choice of gun!
Good call on the 311. I am looking for a new barrel set for my Stevens Springfield to shorten up for just this reason. Long set for the field, short set for HD.

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What about a miss under stress? I'd want more than 2 in the gun if I had a choice. Hey if you're a good shot and have practiced under extreme stress, I say go for it.

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that is why the wife has her qwn shotgun on her side of the bed, and it's not a double.
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Good thinking! I like the keep it simple philosophy myself. I put every gun purchase through an internal mall ninja filter, too.
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I haven't shot many shotguns, but I have very much enjoyed shooting my Winchester Ranger 120 over the years. I have never had a single problem with it--simple and reliable. Is what I have just as good as a Remington 870 for home defense and zombies? If not, how would a Remington be superior? Just me, but if it's not a Winchester, Remington, Browning, or something I can't afford, I don't trust it.
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If you are worried about the gun being to long. Just a little experience will cure the gun being to long. No one but the police had a short barrel shotgun 20 years ago and little old ladies were handling long barrel (28"-30" barrel) shotguns inside the home just fine.

Back to the gun being to long; Get a Hi Point carbine if you are scared a gun is going to be to long. It's in the same price range and the Hi Point won't be to long. You have 11 shots of pistol caliber ammo ready to slice and dice. My wife loves the Hi Point. She will turn a goblin into swiss cheese in a hurry.
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If you are worried about the gun being to long. Just a little experience will cure the gun being to long. No one but the police had a short barrel shotgun 20 years ago and little old ladies were handling long barrel (28"-30" barrel) shotguns inside the home just fine.

Back to the gun being to long; Get a Hi Point carbine if you are scared a gun is going to be to long. It's in the same price range and the Hi Point won't be to long. You have 11 shots of pistol caliber ammo ready to slice and dice. My wife loves the Hi Point. She will turn a goblin into swiss cheese in a hurry.
but many gun manufacterers offer shorter barreled shotguns and or a shorter barrel. why buy a 28-30" barreled shotgun for HD/SD usage if a person can buy an 18.5-20" barrel to begin with?

and if you have a Mossberg 500 or Remington 870, you can always buy a shorter barrel for the same usage and still have the longer one for hunting if wanted.

so in reality, for the most part, there is no reason to have to deal with a shotgun with a long barrel for SD/HD usage. none at all.
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I love my 500. But to be honest try clearing our house in the dark with a unloaded shotgun without having went thru and cleaned first, then try the same with a empty handgun.



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You can't go wrong with MOSSBERG 500 JIC II 12/18.5 MBL PG W/CS...loved it Iraq on my road clearance missions. Here's the link to WFarmory: http://www.westforkarmory.com/pump-action-shotguns/1643-mossberg-500-jic-ii-12-185-mbl-pg-w-cs.html


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