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Old 02-19-2014, 12:31 PM   #41
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FWIW if it is to be a home defense tool and God forbid you have to use it a jury will probally treat you better if you have a plain jane shotgun of any variety than some craptical thing that looks like it is from the Terminator movies. I keep a Benelli Nova with an 18.5 inch turkey barrel and mag extension loaded with 3.5 number 5 Heavy Shot Turkey loads. If I have to go to court I hopefully come across as a typical guy who defended his property as opposed well a mall ninja.
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Yea, and unless you work for some LE agency and your weapon will serve both purposes, keep it simple and void of any insignias like The Punisher or Grim Reaper. That'll get you questioned in court as well.



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Yea, and unless you work for some LE agency and your weapon will serve both purposes, keep it simple and void of any insignias like The Punisher or Grim Reaper. That'll get you questioned in court as well.



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If a court makes a decision based on your stickers then they've found a pretty ridiculous jury. I say decorate any way you want. They make grips with punisher logos, Spartan helmets, etc etc. Lights, red dots, and vertical fore grips (imho) won't make a difference in court. If you shoot someone and it's not valid self defense, you will be in jail....stickers or not. You shouldn't have a fear of decking out your weapon how you please. I keep all my shotguns simple, but that's not to say there aren't plenty of people who go "tacti-cool" and use them for hd purposes.

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If a court makes a decision based on your stickers then they've found a pretty ridiculous jury. I say decorate any way you want. They make grips with punisher logos, Spartan helmets, etc etc. Lights, red dots, and vertical fore grips (imho) won't make a difference in court. If you shoot someone and it's not valid self defense, you will be in jail....stickers or not. You shouldn't have a fear of decking out your weapon how you please. I keep all my shotguns simple, but that's not to say there aren't plenty of people who go "tacti-cool" and use them for hd purposes.

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"Questioned in court" has a huge difference from "a court making a decision". I'm giving the guy who started this post a tip, not a rule.

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"Questioned in court" has a huge difference from "a court making a decision". I'm giving the guy who started this post a tip, not a rule.

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I appreciate the tip buddy but I keep my stuff looking Elmer Fudish. I learned along time ago to keep a low profile. Gotta keep from confusing an uneducated jury.

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"Questioned in court" has a huge difference from "a court making a decision". I'm giving the guy who started this post a tip, not a rule.

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Yeah I just don't think we should fear what we do to our own weapons because of what the courts may decide if you have a "sticker" on your gun. You'll have to show me proof of a case where the judge/jury was influenced by a comic book character sticker on someone's gun stock. I just highly doubt it would go that way that's all I'm saying.

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I appreciate the tip buddy but I keep my stuff looking Elmer Fudish. I learned along time ago to keep a low profile. Gotta keep from confusing an uneducated jury.
... and we've seen PLENTY of uneducated jurys!

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Don't count out a nice short double barrel. The old Savage 311A is a GREAT hd weapon. That short action make it several inches shorter than a pump or semi, and thus easier to manipulate indoors.

They're also very quick to reload.

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If you need more than two rounds of 00 across the bedroom, you've got a bigger problem than your choice of gun!
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... and we've seen PLENTY of uneducated jurys!

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How unfortunately true


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Don't count out a nice short double barrel. The old Savage 311A is a GREAT hd weapon. That short action make it several inches shorter than a pump or semi, and thus easier to manipulate indoors.

They're also very quick to reload.

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If you need more than two rounds of 00 across the bedroom, you've got a bigger problem than your choice of gun!
What about a miss under stress? I'd want more than 2 in the gun if I had a choice. Hey if you're a good shot and have practiced under extreme stress, I say go for it.

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