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Pjj342 04-28-2011 03:35 AM

Chokes or cylinder bore?
 
Im looking for an 18-20in barrel shotgun that would be good to hunt small game/pheasants and also be maneuverable enough for home defense. My price range is under $400 and most of the guns in this category have a cylinder bore which Im not quite sure about. The use of chokes is important to me, am I correct in thinking this?

What shotguns would you reccomend that fit the description?

c3shooter 04-28-2011 03:48 AM

Using a cylinder bore (unchoked) shotgun for bird hunting will result in a more open pattern as range increased. Means more wounded birds (usually takes more than 1 pellet to drop a bird) I use a modified for most bird hunting (full for waterfowl) Why not look for a shotgun with interchangeable choke tubes? Or get an 870 with a spare barrel?

robocop10mm 04-28-2011 05:20 PM

Pheasant are generally hunted with a modified choke. As waterfowl require non-toxic shot (steel, etc.) and steel patterns differently (tighter than lead), many people choose modified choke for that use as well.

Some shorter barrel shotguns are available with screw in chokes. A 20" barrel with a modified choke tube would be very adequate for pheasant hunting.

natman 04-28-2011 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pjj342 (Post 494676)
Im looking for an 18-20in barrel shotgun that would be good to hunt small game/pheasants and also be maneuverable enough for home defense. My price range is under $400 and most of the guns in this category have a cylinder bore which Im not quite sure about. The use of chokes is important to me, am I correct in thinking this?

What shotguns would you reccomend that fit the description?

There's two issues here. The first is choke and you are correct in thinking that choke is important for most wingshooting. The other is swing dynamics. It's difficult to maintain a proper swing with an 18" barrel. You will find it much easier to hit a moving target with a 26-28" barrel.

The easy fix is a gun with two barrels, an 18" cylinder choke for HD and a longer barrel with choke tubes for hunting. Mossberg sell just such a combo:

http://www.mossberg.com/images/Mossberg_Guns/930/NEW/54169.jpg

Be sure to remove the magazine plug for HD and to put it back for hunting.

robocop10mm 04-28-2011 10:23 PM

A shorter barrel does swing very differently than a traditional sporting 26 or 28" barrel. You would need to practice to be able to be efficient at it.

Pjj342 04-29-2011 03:36 AM

cylinder choke
 
Ive found a couple with a 'cylinder choke'. Does this make a tighter pattern?

Also, Is there a middle ground? Would a 24 in barrel serve both purposes acceptably?

robocop10mm 04-29-2011 08:09 PM

Cylinder choke is the same as Cylinder Bore. Essentially NO choke. Depending on the person, a shorter barrel may not be a detriment. I shoot clays and quail with an 18" barrel Cylinder Bore 12 ga. I have had good luck shooting clays with a 14" entry gun. My first shotgun was a 30" full choked 870. I hunted everything from dove, quail, woodcock to ducks and geese with that shotgun for many years. I learned to adjust to the game. Smaller birds were taken at longer ranges to prevent tearing them up too badly. One can make adjustments so a particular gun works for you.

dnthmn2004 04-29-2011 09:42 PM

I'm glad this was brought up. I'm thinking about going bird hunting with my buddy this year. Never hunted anything in my life, just never had that "itch" I guess.

I have an 870 that came with a 26" barrel and just figured thats what I'll be using. I never even thought about using my 18" mod cylinder barrel.

deathkricket 04-30-2011 09:24 AM

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These sell for between 250 and 320 at most walmarts. Item #54169 field/security combo.



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jpattersonnh 04-30-2011 02:06 PM

From a hunting standpoint, I use 2 shotguns. An auto 12ga w/ a 26" barrel. Modified choke tube stay in her 99% of the time. Ducks, geese, quail.. does a great job. I some case when we hunt rivers off islands, swamps, or wooded areas my pump 12ga w/ a 22" barrel comes out. Full choke for Rivers and #1 or BB shot, Modified for field edges w/ #4 lead (works great on crows), and improved cylinder for Walking in the woods. Shoots slugs great to 50 yards w/ the same barrel and IC. The 22inch swings really fast, the 26" is great for wide open areas. The 22" is fine for home defense.


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