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Old 01-24-2013, 11:17 AM   #31
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Glad you found one and at a good price too! I'm sure you will be happy with it.

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Old 01-24-2013, 02:56 PM   #32
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old gun wisdom...you get what you pay for. and make sure you tell your shoulder that.

btw, crack shots make better hammers to finish the job.

btw...we had moss 500's in the seal teams. every day on the range in summer heat for qualifying, theyd jam up from heat. the alloy receivers would warp. you couldnt pump them. 4 hours of buck shot would kill them.
the seals would switch to 870's and continue the day.

last i heard in the late 90's they gave all the 500's to shore patrol, so they could sit in the squad cars and never be used for real. but they sure looked good.
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old gun wisdom...you get what you pay for. and make sure you tell your shoulder that.
Not necessarily. I got both my 1300 defender and 1100 for free and have put thousands of shells through my 1100 in a weekend without a single jam out of it with any kind of ammo from low brass 8 shot to high #2. I'd put it up against any multi thousand dollar shotgun in skeet shooting. It may not look as pretty, but it sure as hell can get the job done. Along with my 1300, I regularly shoot slugs to make sure my optic on it stays zero'd and it has virtually no kick to it and my shoulder loves it..
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then my friend, all i can say is....you dont know what a good shotgun really is until you owned one and shot it 10 boxes a day 3 times a week.
any day someone prides a winchester 1300, is into pain....compared to a handcrafted handmade engineered gun designed to not kick at all.
so please, enjoy your cheap guns by all means. because no matter how hard you defend them, they will always be rated as cheap.
i like cheap guns too. and if its all you can afford sure. to each is own. but once you make the leap to expensive, there isnt any looking back.
now...stop bragging and show me what youre made of.
bring it to the 9 mar ftf forum shoot and lets see it perform!
tell ya what. i'll buy your ticket. thats right....10 free games of skeet or trap.
say yes, book a spot and i'll pay for the meet. i'll pay for the instruction. im offering you a 500.00 shooting weekend. you bring ammo. heck 10 boxes of bird shot wont hurt. will it?
mo. isnt too far. its right in the middle of america.
can ya?
and i tell ya what else....i'll have every imaginable good shotgun there for you to shoot free. shoot my Model 12 if you want. its been shooting 500 rounds a month for over 25 years in my hands. God knows how many before i bought it. ask anyone on this forum and theyll tell you im a man of my word. educating the masses is my hobby. i love pulling scale off peoples eyes.

btw, ive been shooting 1100's since 1976. they work, but they also break. its why remington came out with the 1187 and 1196. they got tired of fixing 1100's.
and as it is, the 1100 turned out to be better, so they put lipstick on a pig and went back to it.... and jacked the price 200 percent. i never considered a 1100 a cheap gun. arent they 7-800 now?

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then my friend, all i can say is....you dont know what a good shotgun really is until you owned one and shot it 10 boxes a day 3 times a week.
any day someone prides a winchester 1300, is into pain....compared to a handcrafted handmade engineered gun designed to not kick at all.
so please, enjoy your cheap guns by all means. because no matter how hard you defend them, they will always be rated as cheap.
i like cheap guns too. and if its all you can afford sure. to each is own. but once you make the leap to expensive, there isnt any looking back.
now...stop bragging and show me what youre made of.
bring it to the 9 mar ftf forum shoot and lets see it perform!
tell ya what. i'll buy your ticket. thats right....10 free games of skeet or trap.
say yes, book a spot and i'll pay for the meet. i'll pay for the instruction. im offering you a 500.00 shooting weekend. you bring ammo. heck 10 boxes of bird shot wont hurt. will it?
mo. isnt too far. its right in the middle of america.
can ya?
and i tell ya what else....i'll have every imaginable good shotgun there for you to shoot free. shoot my Model 12 if you want. its been shooting 500 rounds a month for over 25 years in my hands. God knows how many before i bought it. ask anyone on this forum and theyll tell you im a man of my word. educating the masses is my hobby. i love pulling scale off peoples eyes.

btw, ive been shooting 1100's since 1976. they work, but they also break. its why remington came out with the 1187 and 1196. they got tired of fixing 1100's.
and as it is, the 1100 turned out to be better, so they put lipstick on a pig and went back to it.... and jacked the price 200 percent. i never considered a 1100 a cheap gun. arent they 7-800 now?
I agree there is a big difference in cheap and expensive guns but as far as pump guns they don't get any better than the 1300s I have had many of them and if I had to keep them I wouldn't trade my 1300 for 100 870s or 500s
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