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Old 06-01-2012, 07:17 AM   #21
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I load my HD shottie with bird shot. If I end up in court for gunning a bad guy down I dont want it to look as though the event was in anyway planned... Sporting shot will deliver serious pain to a bad guy and does not convey a sense that I intended harm to anyone... I am looking to depen my defensive situation though...

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Old 06-01-2012, 10:52 AM   #22
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This completely depends on the situation. I keep seven 00 buckshot rounds in my magazine and six 1 oz slugs on my side saddle.

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The shotgun was designed for shot. It can shoot slugs ( and some shoot them fairly well). But you can not make a shotgun into a rifle. At 100 yards or less about anything you hit with a slug is a goner. But the shotgun shines best with multiple projectile loads. Almost all of us have shotguns and handguns and rifles. Each are best at one thing.

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This completely depends on the situation. I keep seven 00 buckshot rounds in my magazine and six 1 oz slugs on my side saddle.
same here.....

good luck with the bird shot, hope you never have to use it.
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Old 06-01-2012, 03:04 PM   #25
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This completely depends on the situation. I keep seven 00 buckshot rounds in my magazine and six 1 oz slugs on my side saddle.
This is what I do as well. And as for the buckshot going through my walls, I live in a house that was built in the 30's and under the sheetrock its solid wood walls made out of sawmill lumber, so no worries there.
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I've never understood why people think that if they use birdshot it will help them in court. It's still considered a LETHAL round. That's like saying I practice shooting arms and legs to stop people! If I'm going to shoot its to drop you because I was in fear of my life or those of my loved ones. If you're worried about over penetration and killing someone then get beanbag rounds. They hit with force and concentrate it in one spot so it has the force to drop someone on contact. Plus its NON-LETHAL. Otherwise devise a plan with your family so they know to get to a safe zone and then you don't have to worry about a round going through the wall and hitting little Johnny while he's sleeping. I personally use 000 buck because there's no getting around those pellets. Somewhat hard to find nowadays though.

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Old 06-01-2012, 05:07 PM   #27
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Its a simple difference between a panicked response to the situation and a calculated defense. I am not arguing this point. Simply put I was encouraged by a friend who graduated law school in D.c... truth be told though... the weapon I am most likely to default to is my 9mm with hollowpoints...

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try out #4 birdshot at a distance of 20-30 feet and see how much damage it does before you say it's not enough to get the job done. i have done some informal test with it, and it will penetrate 3/8" plywood and seriously dent and penetrate the quater panel of a car. so IMO, it will do very serious damage to a BG! i found that of the maximum distances in my home, that #4 birdshot will do what i need it to do.
For distances inside a home #4 lead shot will get the job done. Overpenetration is a definite concern with buckshot in apartments, and closely spaced city homes. Less so in rural areas.

I use 00 buck because overpenetration isn't a concern where I live, and since I use it for everything else, I only have to stock one load.
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Today i shot a metal burn barrel with #4 at 10ft with my 12 guage with 18.5" barrel. The pattern was a tight basketball shape pattern. Would be a bad day for a bad guy.
Thanks for the info, thinking I'm gonna go get some and try it out for myself. Would be nice for cheaper HD shells.
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I wish a company would make 23/4 #2 lead shot. It seems like it would be a good load for home defense

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