Originally Posted by Sniper03
I apologize in advance if this information is a duplication! I did not take time to read through the entire thread before adding this information but thought it might be informative regarding the initial topic of the Thread and why some of us recommend BB or #2 Shot for home defense. Here is the results of the Box Test.
12 sheets of 5/8 Sheetrock (Drywall) were placed in a box approximately 1 inch apart and then behind the box a milk jug full of water was placed.
A 19.5 Inch Barreled 12 Ga. using 2 3/4 inch rounds was used for the penetration test at 12 feet.
# 4 Buck Penetrated the 6th sheet and bounced off the 7th. sheet
Which would represent the #4 going from the room the gun was fired in through three additional
rooms and hitting the wall across the room on the third room.
#O Buck Penetrated also the 6th and hit the 7th the same wall as the #4 Buck.
#OO Buck Penetrated 7 Walls with 3 Pellets going through the 8th Wall and 1 Pellet slightly penetrating the Water Bottle. The second test shot did the same with the 1 Pellet bouncing off the water bottle. I did a test one time and got the OO to penetrate 9 layers.
Obviously Slugs are not a good choice either for in home defese. But good to have around to load if needed.
So for home use that is why I and others suggested 2 3/4 BB or 2 3/4 # 2 Magnum Rounds.
Spread: OO Buck at 12 Feet = 2 1/2 inches.
very good information you posted Sniper. thank you for providing this.
i will again substantiate my reasons for birdshot over buckshot for those who may have missed it. does birdshot have the same penetration as buckshot? no it doesn't. i will not pretend or say it does, because i know differently. is birdshot as effective as buckshot? no it isn't at longer distances. simple ballistics proves this out. the further the distance, the less effective birdshot becomes, but at 20-25 feet or less, birdshot can be effective and lethal. if a BG is wearing heavier clothing, then buckshot is more effective by a margin, even at close range. but birdshot will still penetrate to a degree and there are several YouTube videos that bear this out when tested. the smallest birdshot i would use personally is #4 birdshot.
now i have done my own informal tests in the past along with another member of this forum and verified my thoughts on using birdshot as HD/SD ammo. first and foremost, i don't make assumptions or take things on blind faith when it comes to personal security. i test any and all firearms and ammo for many things before i have complete confidence in it's a bility to perform as i need it to when needed. IMO, anyone that simply buys a firearm and some ammo and sticks into a corner or a drawer without testing it for function and reliability and how well it shoots as far as patterning or accuracy is a fool and an idiot. they have bought a gun and now simply because they own it, they are setting themselves up for a false sense of security. wrong way to approach personal safety.
my advice is to practice and do your own informal testing with various types of shotgun ammo. evaluate your situation and environment to see what is best for you and your loved ones. what works for me or someone else may not be the most desirable choice for another person with different factors than me. i have tested for my situations and my environment and satisfied my own needs as to what i feel comfortable and confident with using. i made these decisions based on what works for my needs and not someone elses.