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PeteZaHut 01-16-2011 04:49 PM

buckshot vs. slugs for home defense
 
What are the arguments for each?

JonM 01-16-2011 04:59 PM

buckshot loses almost all energy after penetrating several walls. not as liekly to injre neighbors from errant shots if forced to use it. especially 2 3/4 shells. slugs tend to waaay over penetrate. i do keep a couple handy in the buttstock shell holders.

this is what i use for home defense

my 590A1 doesnt have sights just a bead my bayonet is a M7.

http://www.gunreports.com/media/news...PX-Bayonet.jpg

walmart had em on sale im not tied to any brand name
bb shot works better in shortrange home defense

Remington 12 Ga Ultimate Home Defense 2 3/4" Shell 1 1/4 OZ Lead Size BB

http://www.internetguncatalog.com/ig...arge/38102.jpg

Remington 12 Ga Ultimate Home Defense 2 3/4" Shell 1 1/4 OZ Lead Size BB 10/Box Ammunition Md: RW12SHDB, Remington Hevi-Density Home Defense LG Outdoors

Virginian 01-16-2011 06:40 PM

I realize this really rains on the ninja parade, but people are really easy to stop. I have seen a deer run a quarter mile with three slugs, but people - no. They have the most complex nervous system. While the Army did have to go back to the 45 Colt from the 38 Special to stop drugged Maori warriors in the Phillipines over a hundred years ago, buckshot is more than sufficient. I really think John's BB suggestion sounds good to be honest. Any shot gives you some cushion for a small aiming error as compared to slugs as well, and won't penetrate houses.

ScottA 01-16-2011 07:30 PM

go with shot. no reason to risk more over-penetration

hnealg 01-17-2011 11:45 AM

If you want a single projectile, get a carbine--a shotgun is not a rifle. A carbine has better range, better accuracy, AND greater penetration.

On the other hand, the shotgun is pretty much recognized as the best choice for home defense. The choice of shot is largely dependent on the physical structure you and who else is there live in.

If you share the building with others--family, roommates, neighbors--bird shot is better, less penetration (Rob Pincus recommends 7 1/2, JonM uses BB). If you live in a single dwelling without close neighbors, buckshot is a better choice (I use #1 buckshot :rolleyes:). Either shot is reported to cause severe wounding!

robocop10mm 01-17-2011 01:21 PM

Pete, after JD had to close the last thread about body armor penetration I am getting some REALLY big red flags about you. ISTAT.

sweeper22 01-17-2011 06:56 PM

Everyone is going to have something different, depending on their preferences and immediate environment. My HD shotgun holds 6 rounds, and my decision has been to escalate the firepower severity as it cycles. I figure if God forbid there was ever a legitimate reason to fire off my SG several times, by that point I'd want a heavy hitter.

2rds heavy birdshot (#4-6)
2rds 00buck
2rds PDX1 ninja load (1oz slug w/ some buckshot)

Unless you live in an isolated area and are prone to aggressive bear or bigfoot encounters, I would highly discourage having a slug among the first few rounds you chamber.

TimL2952 01-17-2011 08:12 PM

well...after hearing it from people involved in incidents...you want to make sure the round doesnt actually hurt anyone in your home unless it KILLS the bad guy....

in NY its pretty popular that if you just wound to stop a BG, then you werent in enough danger to use potentially lethal force...therefore you get arrested for shooting someone and the BG walks free.... -.-

JonM 01-17-2011 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LUBrowningBoy (Post 424007)
well...after hearing it from people involved in incidents...you want to make sure the round doesnt actually hurt anyone in your home unless it KILLS the bad guy....

in NY its pretty popular that if you just wound to stop a BG, then you werent in enough danger to use potentially lethal force...therefore you get arrested for shooting someone and the BG walks free.... -.-

if thats a concern use only ammo labeled as self defense critical defense etc. keep the boxes handy.

paul 01-18-2011 01:25 AM

home defense shotgun ammo
 
heavy birdshot, BB, and bayonet. that'll do it, :D


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