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motoh8r 07-18-2013 11:28 PM

Buckshot for home defense
 
Just purchased a home defense 12g with an 18.5" barrel...needing opinions on which buckshot loads i should try for the tightest pattern out to around 50 feet. Thanks

ninjatoth 07-18-2013 11:41 PM

50 feet is quite far, but I have tested some 00 buckshot loads at 75 feet in the short home defense barrels and nothing could beat the patterns of the Hornady 00 2.75" buckshot(critical defense, superformance, Zmax etc., all the same).The standard 00 buck from Federal, Remington, Winchester etc would not land all pellets on a 30" paper at 75 feet as where the Hornady always would, even having 2-3 pellets dead center sometimes, although a lot of the guys on here don't recommend 00 buck for home defense, I use it with no worries.

motoh8r 07-18-2013 11:49 PM

Thanks for the info. I know 50' is far for 18.5"...just thinking worst case.

JTJ 07-18-2013 11:56 PM

In a house you would be looking at 7 yards as a long shot. Your shotgun will pattern approximately 6" at that range. Add an inch of spread per yard of distance. I kept #4 buck in my 12 gauge and #3 buck in my 20 gauge. I believe the standard 2 3/4" #4 buck load is 27 pellets and it is pretty devastating. So is the noise of a shotgun going off inside a house. I highly recommend patterning your shotgun. It will give you the spread and point of aim. You do need to aim. Dont believe the Hollywood hype.

Axxe55 07-19-2013 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by motoh8r (Post 1308090)
Thanks for the info. I know 50' is far for 18.5"...just thinking worst case.

50 feet and worst case? might want to think about retaining an attorney, because at that distance, they could possibly determine that it's not SD anymore.

i pattern my shotguns and ammo at about 20-30 feet as the longest possible shot within my house is about 25 feet.

Fred_G 07-19-2013 12:27 AM

I like the Federal Flite Control stuff. I have 00 buckshot, have heard good things about their #1 buckshot. The #1 is a bit harder to find.

MisterMcCool 07-19-2013 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Axxe55

50 feet and worst case? might want to think about retaining an attorney, because at that distance, they could possibly determine that it's not SD anymore.

i pattern my shotguns and ammo at about 20-30 feet as the longest possible shot within my house is about 25 feet.

He might have a really big house with really long hallways. ;)

Axxe55 07-19-2013 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterMcCool (Post 1308140)
He might have a really big house with really long hallways. ;)

if he can afford a house with hallways that long, then he shouldn't need a shotgun, but might be better off hiring a guard!:p

SSGN_Doc 07-19-2013 01:12 AM

Here is a pretty good illustration if how much tighter the Flight control loads from Federal pattern compared to standard loads. Hornaday Critical Defense and Zmax loads use the same type of shot cup to get the tightest pattern.

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot56.htm

Virginian 07-19-2013 01:34 AM

Good things to keep in mind if the Jello goes on the warpath.
I cannot believe the way people obsess over the minute details of the "Home Defense" scenario. If you want that tight a pattern just use a soft lead low recoil slug. I realize that substitutions have to be made because there is no real world data on shotguns actually used in home defense. Much less against hordes of home invaders. Some years ago there was a gun "documentary" I think it was Five American Guns. Guy in Va. Beach who had experienced a couple of break ins bought a single shot 12 and cut the barrel to 18+ inches and bought some cheap 00 or #1 buck, I forget which. Guy broke in and didn't stop when he told him to and he let fly. They showed him cleaning the gore up in his living room. He said he never counted on that part with a grimace. He still had 4 shells left so he was still good to go.
Any shotgun with just about any buckshot and any or even no choke is going to absolutely obliterate a bad guy in the house, if you hit him. So make sure you do that part first and foremost.


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