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Old 04-10-2014, 02:59 AM   #121
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I have never seen a #4 13/4 oz turkey shells !...............
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Here is a picture of a box I am not home I was gonna take a pic of the shell you got me thinking maybe it was #5 but this is the same brand I'm pretty sure.
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Here is a picture of a box I am not home I was gonna take a pic of the shell you got me thinking maybe it was #5 but this is the same brand I'm pretty sure.
Oh you meant 1&3/4 oz.................My Bad !............
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Everyone, stop and think.....

I have a Mossberg 590A1 that my daughter loves to shoot. She's a 20 yr old petite dancer at about 105 lbs. We shoot this "tactical" gun with Hornady TAC reduced recoil loads. Perfect for the home. I do have a Blackhawk recoil absorbing stock on, but seriously, this gun shoot calmer than some of my pistols.

Get the folks that are tentative about 00 buck the right choice and they'll love it!!

I really believe that some nay sayers are based solely on their antiquated gear.......

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I have never seen a #4 13/4 oz turkey shells !...............
Ran a quick check, found these. They are for 3" chambers.
2 from Winchester, XTENDED RANGE stock# STXS1234,,,,,,,,,,,, LONG BEARD XR. stock# STLB1234
1 from Remington, PREMIER stock# PHV12M4

Try them, ya might like um.


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Everyone, stop and think.....

I have a Mossberg 590A1 that my daughter loves to shoot. She's a 20 yr old petite dancer at about 105 lbs. We shoot this "tactical" gun with Hornady TAC reduced recoil loads. Perfect for the home. I do have a Blackhawk recoil absorbing stock on, but seriously, this gun shoot calmer than some of my pistols.

Get the folks that are tentative about 00 buck the right choice and they'll love it!!

I really believe that some nay sayers are based solely on their antiquated gear.......
That's an interesting idea. How about a penetration test of what I assume is low velocity vs. normal buckshot? It would make for some interesting scars if someone lived through a round or two of it.
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That's an interesting idea. How about a penetration test of what I assume is low velocity vs. normal buckshot? It would make for some interesting scars if someone lived through a round or two of it.
The reduced recoil loads I use are 8 pellet loads which are 1000+ fps and they pattern a lot better and tighter than the std 9 pellet loads. Who ever came up with this combination came up with a winner when it comes to the desired affect on 'human' targets!
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Hit em with "cut shells"

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AKA a red neck slug!
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There are major differences in buckshot loads between manufacturers. The premium Federals will shoot very tight patterns from a cylinder bore. Akin to a modified choke compared to some other brands. My 20 gauge is loaded with #3 buck and I have patterned it at 7 yards. You better be aiming. Typical patterns at 7 yards are 4" for Modified choke, 5" for Improved and 6" for Cylinder. Results will vary with the gun and the ammo brand used. The main focus of buckshot is to penetrate a vital organ and the number of shot gives you a better chance of doing that. You do need to have a pellet size with enough mass to accomplish the task.
Rifled slugs were designed when there were no screw in choke tubes and most could only afford one gun. It was typically a 28" 12 gauge with a modified choke. The rifling on the slug allowed it to compress going through the choke and hopefully impart some spin. Rifled slugs do show better accuracy out of a choked barrel but I would not attempt to shoot one out of a full choke.

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