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Old 08-22-2013, 02:24 AM   #11
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I'd be mad by all that leg work and shipping and problems to deal with. That kind of things ruins a manufacturer for me.

I bought my first shotgun last year. It was an old 12 gauge Remington 870 Wingmaster pump. I bought it because it got good reviews, was in good shape, and was inexpensive. I shot one round of skeet with it and immediately sold it to a buddy. I then bought a Beretta A390 ST gas-gun. It was okay. Kind of a pain to clean but okay. I traded it off for an SKB 1300 20 gauge gas gun. I loved that gun. I also bought a Stoeger Condor 12 gauge over/under. The Stoeger didn't open smoothly and seemed cheap and generic. I traded the Stoeger off. I then saw an SKB over/under on gunbroker for a fair price and bought it. It was the 12 gauge 5600. I thought it was great, then the forearm cracked. You can't get new wood and a stock expert in Texas said this was a design flaw in SKBs and they all end up that way. I felt sad and pissed. I then saw a Browning Citori 20 gauge for a good price that was like brand new. I traded off my SKB gas-gun (that I loved) and got the Browning. The Browning was my first shotgun over $1000. Man was it nice, yet, it had a high rib and I couldn't hit anything with it. I shoot flat and don't float the skeet. I couldn't retrain myself so it had to go. I traded the 20 gauge Citori in and got what I paid ($1300) and threw in the SKB 5600 with cracked forearm and they gave me a brand new Browning Citori Lightning 12 gauge worth $1700. I threw Briley extended skeet chokes in it, walked outside, and broke 24 of 25 skeet with it and did a dance of joy. Browning makes a nice over/under for the money. Mine has 26-inch barrels. Kinda wish they were 28 to 30 but I can live with 26. It's a nice firearm, perfect for skeet, which is all I do. Is a Kolar, Fabarm, Perazzi, Blaser, Guerini, or Krieghoff better? Would I break more with one? I doubt I would...but I'd like to have one!

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Glad to hear your happy w your gun. Browning citori XS skeet comes w high and low rib so you are not alone. I recently shot one and was very impressed.

I saw a Baretta 682 w Gracoil recoil reducer for $1,592 and 9 chokes. Am going nutz if I should buy or not but I don't have the budget to roll the dice nor the knowledge base to spot a problem. (if one exist)

Quality O/Us don't have many minor problems, so if something is wrong it's probably expensive. Plus, I have no idea if it fits. Yet the price looks right ? Yet, wouldn't be the first time I was "Wrong."

Note: after changing valve spring to tune the gas gun for the cheap, light 1oz loads I have - gun has been perfect. Special thanks to Cole of Maine for Spring and Seamus for writing the Baretta 391 survival guide.

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Most people agree that the best starter gun for clays is a used Browning or Beretta O/U.

If you are looking for one, I am selling my 12ga Browning 425 30" ported barrels with leather hard case and factory chokes for $1,300. It's in the classifieds if ya wanna check it out.

But THE best gun to shoot clays with, period, is the gun that fits you best. Differences between make and model are just weight distribution, feel, and other minor things like mechanical vs. inertia triggers.

IMO the simpler the better.

Here is my Zoli Kronos that I shoot Sporting Clays with. 12ga, 30", inertia trigger. Comes in at just under 7lbs. and it has a nice balancing point, FOR ME.

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Damn, someone just bought it.. Don't know if I'm just unlucky or I dodged a bullet. One day, I hope I'm lucky enough or rich enough to get an O/U.

Until then, I'll try to shoot the best I can w my gas gun. Probably easier on my shoulder in the long run.

Think the best route is to have both in your inventory. I have an 870 for my rainy day gun but it takes some practice to be able to shoot skeet w it. Even in 20 ga, the recoil is worse than my 12.

Amazing how fast your skills are perishable.

Congrats on 24 ! Great score & saved the integrity go your hat.

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I own 10 shotguns and my favorites for trap are my Weatherby Orion1 trap model 12g O/U and a Beretta A-390ST (Supra Tutto) model. Both guns have thousands of rounds shot and never had problems. If either models can be found, I recommend buying. Still pricy on used markets, but you will be pleased with the performance for either of these 20 yr. old guns.

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I use a mossberg 500 and i hit almost all the clay

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I use a mossberg 500 and i hit almost all the clay
"Almost" is the key word. I have an FN SLP. It's been used with an 18-inch barrel and full choke for a round of trap just to see what would happen. 24 out of 25 - would I use it as my main trap gun based on that result? Don't think so.
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Subscribed to thread.

Skeet and trap is a sport I'd love to get into, but money and time keep me from it.

My gun is a side by side that even my granddaddy would call old. Most of this talk of shot guns is going over my head. I simply don't have the experience to keep up.

Maybe I'll subscribe to one of those magazines.

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Bobski is having a FTF shootout & BBQ at his private range. All you have to do is bring 10 boxes of ammo & pay for tgts. Just an idea. He even has spots for campers.

If you don't have travel $$, try to find out if any of the local gun clubs have trap or skeet ranges. Many clubs, while private, may have days when they are open to the public. While each club has its own personality, I have found the shooters to be very friendly and generous w newcomers even letting them borrow a gun for a round.

Better yet, join a league !

IMHO: sporting clays is more fun. The tgts come from a almost every angle to include - right at you.... They even have some that bounce on the ground like a rabbit. Hard to find ranges though.

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Don't know about these other guys, but I'm actually already signed up for bobski's shoot and hoot. October 5 weekend I believe, unless it's changed.

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