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Old 09-05-2013, 02:35 PM   #21
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Sorry- yes, I have assorted 20s.

Yes, the 6/7 mm shotguns were "garden guns". Used to chase bunnies out of you garden without shooting up neighbor's house across the alley.

Pinfires- early adventure into complete cartridges. Each round had it's own firing pin, resting on an internal primer. Falling down while wearing a bandolier of those could be...... interesting.

The really scarce shells were factory hi pressure test loads- "proof" loads. They did not like to let those get out the door. There are also low brass, high brass, all brass and no brass shells. Even have a couple of all aluminum
shotshells.

There is an incredible variety for the collector in the humble shotgun shell.
Interesting, or painful?

I may have to get into cartridge collecting. From just what I've seen so far, there's a LOT of interesting stuff.
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C3, please post a pic of the 44XL if you have one. Thanks for the info, we are all going crazy trying to learn about these obscure shells.

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C3, please post a pic of the 44XL if you have one. Thanks for the info, we are all going crazy trying to learn about these obscure shells.
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Thanks KY! Amazing. Do you have a 44XL shotgun?

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If you have a paper mill in your area and know someone who works there, see if they can score a 4 gauge shell and/or fired hull for you. They use them to shoot build-up rings out of the lime kilns. I believe cement companies do also in their kilns. Remington sells a tripod mounted industrial 4 gauge, and the shells.

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Can anybody buy those Remington 4 gauge shells or do you have to be in the business?

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Sadly no. Google- fu
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Remington sells the 4 ga. shells - they are slugs - but I think you have to get a case. CCI still sells .22, .357, and .44 caliber shotshells, and maybe .45 and 9mm, just don't know offhand, primarily for snakes, and they work extremely well. They also sell the shotcups so you can load your own. Crimped case #12 shot .22 rounds have been around forever.

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The 44XL was killed when the 410 came out (in about 1915). Winchester made a tiny 9mm shotgun around 1930 called the Model 36 it was a single shot bolt action. Many rifle calibers were available with hollow wooden bullets that were full of shot. But these were not for shotguns but just to use in rifles. Here are a couple samples with a couple 44 XL's.



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