Originally Posted by akers06
I know how to pattern a shotgun I have patterned a lot of turkey guns but I don't care what shell you have you aren't going to consistently kill pheasants at 40 yards with a slug barrel
I'm sorry, but this CAN be done consistantly using the right ammo. Get a copy of Bob Brister's book, "Shotgunning: the Art and the Science." He explains how this is possible. Also, another good one is "The Shotgun Book," by Michael McIntosh. McIntosh tells of an incident where he and some shooting chronies backed up to well over 40 yards and were consistently breaking trap targets w/ wide open skeet chokes. I once knew an old man back in Michigan when I was a kid who was known to be a deadeye on long distance pheasants. He had an old Model 12 that he claimed had a very tight choke and that's what enabled him to bust those long distance birds. One day a bunch of guys talked the old man into letting them pattern the gun. At 40 yards it patterned even, but very wide, like a cylinder bore. The old guy was furious. He took it to a local gunsmith and had the choke measured. It had no choke at all. It seems that a few years before, it was accidentally run over by a hay wagon and the first few inches of the barrel had been cut off. The old guy didn't know this at the time but the previous owner confessed.
Believe what you want, I know what I saw. Do some patterning w/ different chokes and shells and you will see what I mean.