I am the proud owner of a L. C. Smith 28 gauge s x s that I got as a gift as a teenager over 56 years ago that money cant buy. Also an English made s x s that gets a lot of use. All told I have six 28s and nine 410s, all break actions, in my cabinets. The largest bore I hunt with is 20 gauge for late season pheasants, after they have been shot over for a month or so and dont hold well for the dogs, and slugs for deer. My sixteens and twelves are pretty much cabinet queens. I have never understood the concept that you have to have a twelve for upland game of any kind.