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Old 11-15-2013, 04:58 PM   #11
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im using supplies i stock piled 5-6 years ago, so reloading is still cheap for me.
1 1/8oz loads are dinosaurs today. switch to 1oz for 12ga.
i sell used hulls. pm me if you need some.
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lead in some places is 37.00 a bag. areas vary.
primers are cheaper by the 5000. cci are cheaper than winchester. best deal i find is federals.
stay away from noble. they are metric flash hole sizes. they open up your hull and others will then fall out.

reloading allows you to make custom loads. thus whatever it costs, some shooters say the trophy it wins them is worth it.

btw...buck a shot + is what im saying factory shooting is compared to 5.97 per 25 in shotgun shells....thus shooting skeet/trap is cheaper than rifle matches.

targets are 5.00 a game here. its still a lot more exciting than laying on your belly all day for 60 shots.

what makes shotgunning expensive is one game isnt enough and you can burn thru 5 10 boxes a day. well, at least i can.
i avoid big industry memberships...like nssa,ata,nsca, etc...they charge you to register your targets. the return on your invetment isnt worth the time, and it ends up being the same people you shoot against wherever you go. and they all seem to have mobile homes and shoot 40,000.00 k80's. and unless you were taught by a certified nssa instructor, or jp, bender, or shima....they look down on you.
local shoots are more fun, cheaper, and still have an element of social interaction and friendliness.

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hulls....

most reloaders prefer a hull that can be reloaded 5 to 6 or 8 times.
those today are:
winchester aa/hs
remington nitro 27 gold
remington green sts
remington gun club

though cheaper to buy these are usually tossed after 1 or 2 reloads because of cardboard base wads. ...

federal top gun
federal field
federal pink
rio
estate
fiochi

dont even bother trying cheap walmart winchester universals.

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Wittmeba.....

You would be better off buying some ammo to start and then pick up your empties off the ground.. I was saving for a while and got 2k of gun clubs and 300 of nitro or AA hulls.. My trap range just throws them in the trash anyways..

Xmas just came to my house early today.. Got 1k wads 2k primers and 4lbs powder dropped off to my door!!

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hockey..where in ny do you shoot?

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hockey..where in ny do you shoot?
East end of Long Island.. Suffolk county trap and skeet.. Been wanting to go to Brookhaven for Thursday night clays but usually get stuck at work.. Long range rifle shooting I do at Brookhaven.. And if I wanna stay close to home I just go to Nassau county indoor range..

Your in NY too?
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Yes, buying store may be the best way to get started.

We used to get 6-8 reloads from Remington with the white plastic base wads and Win AA.

Problem was reloading was popular at Hidden Valley Gun Club and the hulls picked up from the ground may be very well used.

But it was fun - shooting lots and saving money too.

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im across the sound in conn.
i shoot the clubs in conn.
ive been wanting to shoot l.i. by taking the bridgeport ferry over but never got around to it.

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witt.....go with gunclubs. they do fine and are cheaper than the aa or nitros. i load them about 5 times with no problems.
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I will pay for AA wads but I won't pay for AA hulls unless I needed them yesterday. I am not above dumpster diving for hulls.

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Reloading 12ga today:

Purchase new empty / primed cases $18.00/100 - use #209 on reloads $40.00/500 (.18 each)
RedDot Powder - $18.00/1# (7000 / 1# or 388 loads) (.05 each)
Piston Skeet Wads - $15.00/500 or ClayBusters - $12.00/500 (.03 each)
7.5/8/9 shot - $100.00/50# (800 oz = 700+ shells) (.13 each)
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Total cost for reloads: (.39 each)
Per box 25: .39 * 25 (9.75 each)

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I question some of your numbers;

$40/500 for primers? OMG, I pay half that

What load are you using? My Red Dot load is 16.4 gr. That equates to 426 rds/lb That load is tight shooting and easy on the shoulder.

Claybuster's version of the WAA12 (white) wad is hard to beat. Virtually the exact wad used in the Winchester AA shells.

$50/a bag for shot? I don't pay more than $40. Check Rotometals.

Comparing such a handload to bargain basement loads is very much apples annd oranges. My loads shoot every bit as good as the high end AA loads for FAR cheaper. They will outshoot the typical "Dove and quail load" by a long shot.

If you are in the market, I have about 600 Federal Gold Medal hulls I am willing to part with. If you want to load heavier stuff, I have boo coo Federal #4 high brass hulls
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