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Old 08-16-2013, 08:03 PM   #41
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Knoxx recoil recruiting stocks come in pistol grip. Then you could get 12g and be able to do it all. Also if you ever had to use it for HD you wouldn't feel the kick back your adrenalin would be pumping so much.
Plenty of recoil reduction products on the market. I have a Nice Pad that Came with my Mossberg that we don't even need for the most part.
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gonzilla, the heavier made 12ga semi's dont kick. sxm1 is an example. most of my guns are weighed up to 8-9lbs or more with lead in the stock and lead in the mag tube.

the design of the model 50 alone is a jewel since the bolt kneels down as it travels back sending recoil down thru the pistol grip.
gotta hand it to those old americans. they were waaaay ahead of their time.

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My skeet CPT has 391 Techneys w Gracoil & Baretta's recoil reducers = 9 oz in the stock and 7 oz added past mag cap to balance her out. Still has recoil. I'll ask to shoot it again next week.

Ill need a scale to do it right but his tricked out gun seems as heavy as mine and I don't have any weight in stock but I did have an adjustable soft comb put in. Mine was a Paralel TGT model which stock is 8.5lbs. Rhino sold me a long tube which attaches at mag cap. My bar humor - I call it a 3 shot O/U. Still recoils more than a 20 ga gas gun.

I have seen videos of the AA12 which is where I thought you were heading w recoiless. Nothing is recoiless, it's an urban myth. The best practical answer I have heard to date for people who are recoil sensative (through injuries or nature) is the 28 ga.

I shot an 1100 in 28 ga w some lead in mag cap ( help keep the barrel moving) and while technically - it does recoil, I have never met anyone who objected to it. Almost zero barrel rise and you can literally watch the Tgt break apart. I'm sure .410 probably does the same thing but I don't have much experience w them. I've never tried a competition grade 12 w 410 tubes in it. Might get very close to your BB gun analogy.

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ooops...........

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so...did your 1400 survive its cleaning?
????????????
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I always depend on a Mossberg 500. Have owned three of them.

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well, i wonder if our poster got educated!

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the big mistake people do is they buy a gun then shoot something with it.
you need to identify what you want to shoot and decide what will shoot that object best.

follow me?

wrong way....
you buy a gun.
you buy wrong ammo.
you shoot something...and miss.
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correct way is....
i.d what am i going to shoot.
what will i hit it with.
buy the gun to do it.


2 extra additions...

how often will i shoot it and which is most compatable to my body?

no mention of actions mentioned here.
they are...
break action
bolt action
semi auto
pump action.

using the list above, if comfort in shooting is key, you need to pick one that wont hurt you.
combine that with how often you plan to shoot and youll have your gun picked.

factors that effect choice....

cheap light guns kick.
certain actions kick.
certain ga ammo kicks.
improper fitted guns kick.

properly fitted guns dont.
light recoil loads dont.
certain actions dont.
well built heavy guns dont.

and to make it even harder, no two people are the same.

so...as much as id like to give you a factual answer....the only way youll find the right one is to start trying on some shoes!

this is why ftf has a shoot and hoot twice a year at my place. everyone brings shotguns and everyone tries different ones to see which works best.

by the 10th box shot....the answers become pretty obvious for some.
good luck!

Well, I learned something...
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12 gage. Cheaper and easier to find

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Today I shot two brand new Browning Citori's, one in 12ga and one in 20ga. I shot 5 shells out of each. With both guns I hit 4 out of 5 targets. 1 ounce load in both shells. I barely felt the difference in recoil, but I will say the 20 is a much lighter gun.

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