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Old 10-16-2010, 06:13 AM   #41
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I have an M-4 clone that shoots 7.62 X 39 ammo. The trouble I have with any AR type rifle is that the magazines always double-feed or jam on me. I have been using C Products magazines for a couple of years now and they too have started to jam on me. The weakest part of any AR is and will always remain the magazines until somebody figures something better out. I plan to store away my upper half that shoots the X39 ammo and go with one that shoots the .223/5.56 ammo again. I hate to do it but there is no way around it.

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Old 10-19-2010, 08:46 PM   #42
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Yeah, that bugger will put you in the dirt or smear you all over the terrain.

But, tell me, can you get hollow points for it? Also, how much $$ per round, and does Bianchi make a shoulder holster so I can carry it under my suit coat - like Dirty Harry did with his 8 3/4 inch model 29 in the movies.

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If you are looking for something cheap and durable might I suggest the AK made by Saiga. I picked mine up at a gun show brand new for $350. The 7.62x39 ammo is really cheap if you buy in bulk. The AK made by Saiga is more of a hunting rifle than an ar, it is very light and more accurate than a normal Ak or sks. At 100 yards you can easily hit the target every time. And if you are gonna be killing zombies you probably wont need anything that shoots farther than that.

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Get a 300 blackout alittle better ballistics then the 7.62 but better accurcy and way better mags.

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A bit dusty here, but what the hay. Have there been any newer or better AR mags in 7.62 since the time of this thread's youth?




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How does the cost per round compare for 300 blackout? In other words, for someone wanting a "cheap to shoot" AR for more regular plinking, is that really a good option compared to the 7.62x39 round with surplus and elcheapo Wolf ammo available? Or is 300 blackout more geared toward the AR owner wanting a bit more weight in his projectiles for better long range or hunting use?
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A bit dusty here, but what the hay. Have there been any newer or better AR mags in 7.62 since the time of this thread's youth?

no. Its just the fact that the taper of the x39 round is too large and the magwell too deep.

How does the cost per round compare for 300 blackout? In other words, for someone wanting a "cheap to shoot" AR for more regular plinking, is that really a good option compared to the 7.62x39 round with surplus and elcheapo Wolf ammo available? Or is 300 blackout more geared toward the AR owner wanting a bit more weight in his projectiles for better long range or hunting use?

300 blk is more expensive and it too is a short range round. Your pushing a much heavier bullet with a worse bc than a 556 with the same powder. While it will hit harder it will start dropping like a rock much like the 762x39.
Answers in bold. A super cheap solution is to buy a upper or an ak chambered in 5.45x39. Super cheap plinking fun. It is a corrosive round in surplus cheap form. So if you go the upper route get a piston as the only advantage is keeping the salts in a contained area. Even soyou would need an easy to disassemble one. Personally for cheap corrosive plinking a cheap 4-500$ ak74 is the way to go.
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A bit dusty here, but what the hay. Have there been any newer or better AR mags in 7.62 since the time of this thread's youth?
I believe it was mentioned before. There are x39 magazines on the market that will work reliably +/- in an AR. It took a little time but I finally received some.


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How does the cost per round compare for 300 blackout? In other words, for someone wanting a "cheap to shoot" AR for more regular plinking, is that really a good option compared to the 7.62x39 round with surplus and elcheapo Wolf ammo available? Or is 300 blackout more geared toward the AR owner wanting a bit more weight in his projectiles for better long range or hunting use?
The 300BLK if I'm not mistaken was designed as a easily suppressible, heavier round to be shot out of a SBR at closer ranges and use existing/ readily available parts that the average person is familiar w/.

If you compare apples to apples, brass to brass off the shelf ammo the 300BLK is cheaper and better rounds are available. So for us who can't shoot bi-metal at out local indoor range the 300BLK is cheaper to shoot. Add the fact that it is softer shooting and has better ballistics it's a much better system.

And the idea of steel case 300BLK has been thrown around here lately. Fingers crossed.
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Answers in bold. A super cheap solution is to buy a upper or an ak chambered in 5.45x39. Super cheap plinking fun. It is a corrosive round in surplus cheap form. So if you go the upper route get a piston as the only advantage is keeping the salts in a contained area. Even soyou would need an easy to disassemble one. Personally for cheap corrosive plinking a cheap 4-500$ ak74 is the way to go.
Just noticed that CDNN place has a S&W upper in 5.45x39mm for $500. That's for those who haaaave to have a AR that is cheaper to plink with. The price makes me think JonM is on the money regarding a AK74.

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