[dunerunner]

To answer your initial question, it is an M16A4 select fire in 5.56X45 NATO!

But Milita are probably considered to be domestic terrorists. Push come to shove, everyone should be familiar with this platform!! If handed one, know how to use it!!

[TheDaggle]

Originally Posted by brandy

evil bayonet lug or flash hider, a gas system far superior to the 50+ year old AR design, takes most AR mags, 223 so ammo is easy to get, has good iron sights, is set up for any rail mount optic and it shoots MOA or better.

It's a Benelli MR-1, here's mine with a Bushie red/green T dot illuminated 0 X scope.



The ARGO gas system is also used in the R-1 sporting rifle and the USMC M-4 tactical shotgun so you can count on it!

Looks like a detachable mag and a pistol grip on the same weapon there.... Hope that's not a CA civilian's rifle...

[KalashnikovJosh]

Has anyone mentioned the SKS yet?

For the Peoples Demokratick Republik of Kalifornia(totally joking about the name,please dont take it personal or get hacked off),I think an SKS,with its fixed magazine is a good option.

I would stay away from my favorite flavor of SKS there -the Yugo M59-66A1- because it has some seriously 'evil features' like a bayonet and that NATO spec 22mm rifle grenade launcher complete with the totally despicably evil grenade launching sight..........

I would think if you found a 'sporter' model of SKS,without the bayonet or a flash hider of any kind,and wearing its original fixed 10 round magazine-you'd have no trouble from the politburo there.

SKS rifles were rumored to have been used by Spetsnaz as a form of close support/designated marksman rifle,and are actually quite accurate for the caliber.They debuted in WW2 actually-and were tested on a limited basis on the Eastern Front.While not as rock solid reliable or nearly as prolific as the AK design,the SKS has seen battle in many conflicts post-WW2 from Korea and Vietnam to the civil wars in Eastern Europe.

It is a battle tested design that will serve you well.

Here is a cool link on the SKS-
http://imageevent.com/willyp/russian...ssiminov762x39

You could do alot worse than an SKS set up with rear peep sights from Techsights,and maybe a bit of glass as your 'primary' sighting system.

http://www.tech-sights.com/

I had that sight system on my Yugo-and was pleased to get a bit more accuracy from the rifle.

[illnevertell]

Wow, so many choices. The AR-15, is at the top of my list, but the selection process on this (and the other models you all have suggested) is quite daunting. There seem to be a million people selling these guns at any price point I can imagine. how do I pick what I need?

It seems to me there are a number of people producing the same gun, the AR-15, but each is a little different. Can anyone suggest a site that has California-legal firearms? I have a feeling that will vastly narrow my field of view because laws will restrict a lot of my choices

[KalashnikovJosh]

Do you maybe have a friend that has a few rifles you can try out?

Thats the best way to find what fits you well-try a few different pieces out before you commit with a purchase of your very own.

[ofitg]

I'm not really sure what a "militia" scenario would be.... I imagine that it would entail some threat from an armed foe, and the "militia" would have little or no support from the regular military. No airstrikes, no armor, no artillery. No supply lines bringing up ammo from the rear. The "militia" might have to get by for days, possibly weeks, with the stuff they can carry in their packs.

I'm thinking the situation could be very primitive, similar to what the soldiers faced in WW1. It might be worthwhile to consider WW1 weapons and tactics.

What if a squad consisted of several guys with bolt-action .308's, and one guy with a lead-sprayer like the AR15? The .308's could engage targets which are too far away (or too hardened) for the modern "intermediate" cartridges (.223, 7.62x39) to touch..... the guy with the AR15 could be the modern counterpart to the old BAR man, laying down suppressing fire while the other guys advanced.
The .223 and .308 are both popular civilian cartridges, and they are both still in use by the U.S. military.... should be easier to scrounge than most other cartridges.

[big shrek]

This one


Something you can carry on your tractor, yet still be handy for that inevitable zombie attack

[big shrek]

Originally Posted by sweeper22

Depends on your preferences and budget.

Pistol Caliber Carbines ($250+) While these lack the power of those listed above, they're very handy rifles. The three most popular are the HiPoint 995 ($250), KelTec Sub2K ($400) and Berretta CX4 ($900). These fire common and affordable pistol cartridges, can accept pistol mags, and are quite compact. I just picked up an S2K and love it for what it is: a simple, inexpensive, light, portable, tactical rifle that'll put a bunch of rounds on target at anything inside of 150yards.

Everyone forgets the Calico Liberty pistols & carbines...

Defintely not Kalifornikstan/New Yuck/New Jerky/Ill state freindly...lol

100 rounds of 9mm per magazine.

Liberty Pistol


Carbine with sliding stock.

[armoredman]

I haven't seen a Calico in anything other than .22lr for sale in years, and very few of those.

I always march to the beat of a different drummer, and my current State Defense Rifle shows that.



Czech made vz-58, 7.62x39mm, with Zahal/Mako folding rising cheekpiece stock, folding foregrip, ergonomic pistol grip, quad rail forarm, (side rails not installed), EOTech 512 and Israeli patrol sling. Its lighter than an AK by over a pound even though the reciever is milled, not stamped, and magazines, while not as easily found as AK/ARmags, are cheap enough to order. Czechpoint carries surplus mags for as little as $12 each.
I can hit a man sized target at 200 yards with the unmagnified EOTech, which is OK, I think, have never been a great rifleman. I know the AR guys are giggling in thier coffee right now, that's OK, what i hit will go down, likely, and I am hapy with that.



Couple with a good pistol and Blackhawk mag vest, (with two pistol mags, as well, ), like this,



...and I think I'm covered, reasonably well. I could be wrong, been wrong before, will be wrong again - just ask my wife.

[13BangBang]

Originally Posted by illnevertell

Wow, so many choices. The AR-15, is at the top of my list, but the selection process on this (and the other models you all have suggested) is quite daunting. There seem to be a million people selling these guns at any price point I can imagine. how do I pick what I need?

It seems to me there are a number of people producing the same gun, the AR-15, but each is a little different. Can anyone suggest a site that has California-legal firearms? I have a feeling that will vastly narrow my field of view because laws will restrict a lot of my choices

Everyone has their own taste/preferences. I'm in the Army, I've shot M16's and M4's. I've shot friends AR-15/CAR-15's. Yes they're good assault rifles, but hands down I'd take an SKS any day. They're not as cheap as they used to be when I first bought one. I'd say $300+ you could find a good one. The Chinese models are good, but it's kind of a gamble. If you can find a Romanian model I'd say to pick it up immediately. But like I said everyone has their own likes and dislikes. It don't matter what the weapon is it just matters who's behind the weapon and how well it fits them.