Originally Posted by jps37033
Ok, Im no Beotch, so I am gonna have to build now. LOL
Ya'll called me out. Just one question, can I buy an assembled lower instead of a stripped and a kit? That way I can duck out on a few steps. I am familiar with these somewhat as I have taken them apart and cleaned them many times in the Army.
I guess it would be more gratifying to build to suit rather than to buy assembled.
You can buy a completed lower receiver, they start around $250 and up, depending on what brand name you want. That isn't too bad, considering that a lower receiver will run you $100 +/- a few $$'s, around $65 for a parts kit, then another $100 + for a stock. Check out that link I gave you earlier, PK Firearms, on the left hand side, scroll down to Lower Receivers. They list a Rock River complete lower starting at $275. Also, another great brand, the Sabre Defense complete lowers starting at $265. So if you start with the complete lower, you'll actually save a few pennies. That is assuming you find one with the rollmark (brand) you like, that also comes with the type of stock you like, etc. But, you'll also miss out on learning how to put one together from a parts kit if you buy it complete. Now, you're right back to what I was talking about earlier, buying something pre-assembled, then having to change out what you don't like. If you are happy with it the way it is, then you are ahead of the game. But if you are going to be changing out the stock for a different one, changing out the grip, etc., then that lower just ended up costing you another $150 and up. So now, you are into the lower $400!
But that is the fun part of this disease. Trying to find the best deals, the best set-ups, all for what suits YOUR needs. That's why it's kind of hard for us to tell you what to buy, until we know what you are looking for.
Look around your area gun shops, or any gun shows, check out prices on complete lowers. Unless you really have to have one, I'd recommend staying away from the NM 2-stage trigger/lowers up front. Those receivers are going to run you close to $400 by themselves. If you are comfortable with the standard A2 type stock (solid), those lowers will be the most affordable - generally. The collapsible (M4-Type 4/6 position retractable) stocks, will run a little higher than the A2. Or, you could buy a 80% lower, with no stock, and spend the money on the type of stock you want. There are dozens to choose from, so you'll have to do a little research on which style you like best. Check out Magpul, LMT, Vltor, Bravo Co., etc.
Speaking of Bravo Co., they just came out with their own complete lower:
BCM Lower Receiver Groups M4 AR15
- check out the site, their price is reasonable for what all they put in it @ $350, plus $100 shipping, plus FFL fee. (another reason I suggest looking around locally)
As for a light, short range upper - the skies the limit. Do you want a flat top receiver (allows you to mount optics if/when you want) or the standard A2 w/carry handle? The flat tops are more popular, and usually a little cheaper.
From what you were saying, short range, a 16" barrel would suffice, also be lightweight and quick to swing on target. Here, they range from pencil thin barrels to heavy barrels, M4 barrels with M4 feedramps and M4 profile, mid-length gas tubes, carbine length gas tubes, chrome lined, nitride coated, stainless steel, chrome moly, etc, etc, etc. Each with it's own pros/cons, and priced to match. To give you an example of where the prices will range here...you can buy an ALMOST complete upper, DSA, with 16" M4 style barrel, handguards, front sight, etc. complete - except without a bolt carrier group assembly and charging handle - for $275.
DSA ZM4 Forged 7075T6 A3 AR15 Upper Receiver - DSZM4CBU-D S Arms
This is a great offer, because all you would need then is a good BCG and a charging handle, which you can get for another $150 or so. So now you have a complete upper for around $425. Add on the complete lower from above, and you'd have an almost complete AR for around $700! I said almost, because you'd still have to buy a rear sight (add on another $70+) and you'll have that AR for UNDER $800. Damn...it was possible.
- but you'd have to change out the forearm to add the railed front end you wanted. Oops...add on another $150+. Now...you see how this can all go up quickly?
But that's just one option, you can still build the whole upper assembly, and buy the parts you like, too. Again, I'd suggest searching some of the sites, like Bravo Co., PK Firearms, Rainier Arms, Stag, Rock River, DPMS, etc. to get an idea of the kinds of parts that are out there right now, and what prices they will run. Once you get it down to what you like, we can help you work out how to put it all together.