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Old 07-24-2010, 10:47 PM   #11
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my father has an ar-15 and it is a sweet shooting gun, but the price on one is about double a mini-14. i am a huge ruger fan also. i just want to get something with out breaking the bank( i'm looking to buy a 1911 also). i have just heard so many mixed reviews on them. does anyone have a preference of of mini 14 or mini 30?
No, that can't go unchallenged, like a Q.E.D. math formula.

A Mini-14 is about $650 for a good deal and can easily be found for $750. I built my AR for about $850 and could have put one together for under $800. AR-15's are not, by definition, twice the price of a Mini-14.

They are in the same ballpark as far as price. Now, one can definitely go whole-hog and build an AR for $1600+. But we all know that a Mini-14 can also be pretty tricked out and quickly exit the sub-$1000 range.

I'll leave it at that. I don't have any desire to turn this into a bash-the-Ruger thread. Just don't assume that an AR (built in a couple of hours from some parts) is that much more expensive than a Mini-14.
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did you build it made in U.S.A. for that price? just wondering, this is important to me. i'm not bashisng yours by any means, i just would like to know.
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Any of the newer 580 series mini-14's will shoot sub moa with the right ammo. My brother and I bought new mini's in 2008, his in 6.8 SPC and mine in .223. They both shoot sub moa with no mods.

Now, the older 180 series mini's can be a "crap shoot" when it comes to tight groups @ 100. I had a 180 sereis in .223 in the late 1970's and it would shoot no less than about 3" groups @ 100, however, I had shot other unmodified 180 series mini's that would group at about 1" @ 100.

The newer unmodified standard 580 series seem to be constant at about 3/4 moa.

Not too shabby in my book. I think they are great rifles for their intended use.
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did you build it made in U.S.A. for that price? just wondering, this is important to me. i'm not bashisng yours by any means, i just would like to know.
Yep. Lower is a combination of parts (all USA). The upper is Del-Ton with some Yankee Hill parts. Here's my build thread:

http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f20/first-ar-15-build-here-i-go-28708/

Again, I only bring it up to help dispel the common fallacy (I believed it, too, just a few months ago) that an AR costs at least $1200. Not true.
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Rugermatt, take a look at Chris' AR building thread, it's a sticky. He documents things very well and I think you can assume his parts are US made, take a look to be sure.

I also built an AR last summer for about $800. It could be built cheaper today.

Lower Receiver:
Smith&Wesson Model M&P-15 Stripped Lower $130 ........ Springfield, MA
Del-Ton Lower Parts Kit $50 ......................... Elizabethtown, NC
BCM M4 Milspec Stock Kit/H-buffer $70 ......... Hartland, WI

Upper Receiver:
ArmaLite U15A4CB MidLength Upper Receiver ....... Genesco, IL
ArmaLite E20151 Railed Gas Block Sight (total of $500) .. Genesco, IL
Wilson Arms 16" HBAR Barrel (included above) .................. Branford, CT
Colt A4 Carry Handle (Cardinal Forge) $27 (used) ........... Hartford, CT
Bushmaster 0.04" taller front sight post $6 ...... Windham, ME

Miscellaneous:
CQB Universal Fit 3-Point Tactical Sling $10 (used) .... Visalia, CA
USGI/NHMTG Magazine $10 ........................ Hartford, CT

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rugermatt,

This is kinda funny looking at this thread. A few months ago I posted the same kinda thread: http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f18/survival-defense-if-only-one-rifle-25602/

I had made up my mind that a Ruger Mini-14 was the right rifle for me. And then a bunch of these radical whackos started telling me to build an AR for the same price. I just thought they were firearm extremists until I started doing my homework.

And 3 months later...I've got a pretty cool US-made, Oregon-assembled (in my office) AR-15 for $850.
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now if i can actually build an AR for the same , or about the same price, then this sounds too fun to pass up. my father has a s&w that has all the gadgets, i think he piad in the $1,500 range for it. this sound like an awsome project. i love me a ruger, but i love me some building my own gun too.now i am even more confussed on this subject.lol. keep em coming though. that's a sharp looking rifle you got there Quentin, i like the carry handle instead of a scope (even though any Marine knows that you don't use the carry handle to carry your rifle). i am already an expert at shooting the m-16 according to the Marine corps, so this is a definate option.
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Sounds like these guys changed your mind for ya. If you're thinking about an AR build now, may I suggest this kit at midway:

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It's priced at $499 and you should be able to get into a quality stripped lower for under $150.
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My main suggestion is go to the AR-15 sub-forum and read all the stickies, then just start looking around. And choose what items you could go inexpensive on and still be good parts. And then choose which items (I'm thinking gadgets now) you wouldn't want to cheap out on...so you just put it off.

I really believe you could buy for $800 plus a tool or two.
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Matt, don't completely give up on the Mini-14 but definitely compare it against an AR. And those of us here who've done it can tell you building your own AR is a whole lot of fun. I think the AR is a better rifle but the Mini is no slouch.

I listed where the components were made in my earlier post and to the best of my knowledge every one, including the small parts, was made in the USA. I felt that was a requirement since I was building a near copy of The US Rifle. And those parts were assembled into the rifle right on my coffee table in Boise, ID.

Good luck whichever way you choose to go.

Here's an older picture of it right after I built it. Even the little US flag I put on it was made in the USA. Since you like 1911s I chose a pic that also has my Colt Series '70 that I bought in 1976.

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