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The current trend in home defense by the guru's is Rifle/carbine, shotgun and last pistol.
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10-09-2012, 07:25 PM
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If you're looking for GP utility and accuracy, then
I would say get a CAR-15 clone in 5.56.
Not an AR fan myself, but it seems to answer most your needs.
You may just want to get a good AR lower, for now, as others have
stated.
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and I've never regretted a gun purchase,
is "how much fun will this be at the range?"...
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10-09-2012, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by chloeshooter
This is not just about Obama, he needs a Congress to cooperate.
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Does he really? Then why is he leaning greatly toward U.N. support on subject matter of firearms/ammo? It's a blind sided move on the political chessboard, which, in essence, bypasses congressional approval.
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10-09-2012, 08:30 PM
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You might consider a Mini 14. You can get one at CDNN for $600+$10 shipping.
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Or a mini 30 even better!! both solid platforms that dont meet the scary gun name criteria
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10-09-2012, 08:36 PM
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Executive Order
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10-09-2012, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Armed-Citizen
i am planning on getting a bcm or ak, problem is, if i have enough to get one, which should i consider?
my current needs are:
Home defense rifle (5.56 sounds good)
target shooting
reliability
i waslooking for a ak101 (chambered in 5.56) but heard that aks might have a problem with ejecting the long cased 5.56 compared tothe short necked 7.62 and 5.45....any thoughts on this?
the ak101 by arsenal sounded great to me. why?:
1. ak simplicity, rugged, reliable,
2. can take more time witho out cleaning compared to ar15 direct impingment design,
3. 5.56 less recoil than 7.62 and more common than 5.45(ak74)....
4. more accurate
any suggestions?
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I have no experience with the AK 101's so I cannot comment on them. I do have experience with AK's in general. They are simple and rugged, if not as accurate as the DI guns.
7.62 X 39 is certainly not a caliber with a lot of recoil so do not worry about that.
The DI system is different, Not necessarily dirtier. AR's do not stop working from dirt/fouling. There is plenty of extra space in the upper to hold a bunch of crud. DI guns DO stop working becaause they run out of oil. If an AR gives you trouble after a few hundred rounds, pull the bolt carrier group, lube it up and go back to the fun. The DI system will dry out the upper parts (like the BCG) and cause stoppages. Oil well and all is good.
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10-10-2012, 07:17 PM
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Home defense rifle. Oxymoron.
If you thought the guns and ammo drought of 08-09 was bad, wait to see WTF happens if der fuhror is reelected.
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I can't see a drop in production like 08-09. Most of us are drought proof at this point. We all have reloading equipment or have been buying ammo by the case. Getting reloading supplies is a royal pain already.
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10-10-2012, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by PanBaccha
Does he really? Then why is he leaning greatly toward U.N. support on subject matter of firearms/ammo? It's a blind sided move on the political chessboard, which, in essence, bypasses congressional approval.
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Yanno, after the U.N. sends their gay blue helmeted troops to our county,
we'll be sending them a message.
"Please send more soldiers.
The gators thought they were delicious!"
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10-10-2012, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by therewolf
Yanno, after the U.N. sends their gay blue helmeted troops to our county,
we'll be sending them a message.
"Please send more soldiers.
The gators thought they were delicious!"
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On the OP's first question: Sport Utility Rifle.
AK's and AR platforms would dominate that market. But whatever
your choice is, IMO it should have the following characteristics:
Reliable
Semi automatic
Common chambering/cartridge
Ease of reloading either with detactable magazines or using strippers or both.
My preference is the AR, I like it, lots of parts and support, I stick with
5.56 NATO chambers, I shoot service rifle matches so it works well.
As far as the Blue brain buckets, I hear they make good target practice.
The last idiots that landed here wore red and made good targets, guess
somebody should study history before they try it.
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10-10-2012, 11:50 PM
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