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Old 02-28-2012, 12:15 AM   #1
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Default Sig 5.56 Patrol, Keltec su 16

Have a bead on both from a seller. Interested in the kel tec from a low cost entry point and have heard good things vs. hipoint arms. $480 with an NcStar 3-9x40r rubber armor scope mounted, sling and a couple 30 round mags. 600 rounds through it.

He also has a sig556 Patrol, sling and couple extra 30 rd mags as well. Rifle has about 200 through it and less than a year old. $980

So, I understand the quality diff between the two. What are thoughts on the sig 556? Accuracy? Ease of maintenance, parts...

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Look around a little more. For $980 you can get a new BCM, Colt, Spikes, PSA, etc. Personally I'd rather have any of those than the SIG. Do some comparison, that's a lot of money.

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I have a SIG 556 Patrol and I like it very much. I have a personal thing against the AR-15 stuff, and I don't think I would bother with the KelTec, but that's just me.

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I have a SIG 556 Patrol and I like it very much. I have a personal thing against the AR-15 stuff, and I don't think I would bother with the KelTec, but that's just me.
What is there not to like about the most versatile weapons system on the planet?

Pick a caliber or configuration and set aside 15 minutes and you're good to go.
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Anybody who owns an su-16? I really like the bipod hand guard and the mag storage in the stock but I really want to hear from someone who's shot one and held one. Also anybody know where they are in stock online?

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Pick a caliber or configuration and set aside 15 minutes and you're good to go.
You want to know what I don't like about the AR-15 platform? Here it is. As an engineer, the thing just pisses me off. Of course, as a VN era Marine (who didn't go to VN), the Marines paid a heavy price for that innovation. Of course, it is merely my opinion, and doesn't matter to anyone else.
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You want to know what I don't like about the AR-15 platform? Here it is. As an engineer, the thing just pisses me off. Of course, as a VN era Marine (who didn't go to VN), the Marines paid a heavy price for that innovation. Of course, it is merely my opinion, and doesn't matter to anyone else.
I wasn't there either but the M16s of that era are an entirely different creature than the ones of today. I respect your opinion, it's just based on old information.
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You are absolutely correct we lost a lot of good men to early design flaws and lack of platform knowledge. Most of the guys were sent into the field without a cleaning kit believing the guns flawless and had no upkeep. The platform has had a lot of improvements over the years though.

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I understand vast improvements have been made. I understand they work. I still have this visceral dislike for the platform. It is a personal problem for me. That said, there are still mechanical issues. I prefer the AK platform, of which the Galil and 550 series are what I consider the top of the line. I prefer the op handle attached to the oprod. I grew up with the M-1 Garand, M-1 Carbine, M-14. I also have a Mini-14. I prefer the paddle mag release of the M-14, AK-47, Galil, Mini-14 and 550/551, but to get the ubiquitous AR mags, I have to go with the AR type button mag release. I can live with that rather than proprietary mags.

Before all the hate mail arrives, just remember it is merely a personal preference. My preference doesn’t count any more than anyone else’s.

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I understand vast improvements have been made. I understand they work. I still have this visceral dislike for the platform. It is a personal problem for me. That said, there are still mechanical issues. I prefer the AK platform, of which the Galil and 550 series are what I consider the top of the line. I prefer the op handle attached to the oprod. I grew up with the M-1 Garand, M-1 Carbine, M-14. I also have a Mini-14. I prefer the paddle mag release of the M-14, AK-47, Galil, Mini-14 and 550/551, but to get the ubiquitous AR mags, I have to go with the AR type button mag release. I can live with that rather than proprietary mags.

Before all the hate mail arrives, just remember it is merely a personal preference. My preference doesn’t count any more than anyone else’s.
No hate mail. Just a shame, you're missing out
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