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Old 01-05-2011, 09:22 PM   #11
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Pete, we're glad to have you here. However, I suggest you listen to the members and correct your terminology. You'll make no friends here if you use the anti gunners vocabulary.

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That attitude is exactly what the radical left wants you to have. To own a tank is to have ZERO rate of fire. You do not get the luxury of having the main gun operational nor the belt fed machineguns. If you want a civilian version of a tank it is called a BULLDOZER! To call a Cat D-7 a tank is silly. Can you demolish a building with it? Of course. Can you shoot other tanks with it? No!

Frankly, I think your analogy is absurd.

You still miss the point that the connotation of the word "assault" is clearly different than the one you have been brainwashed into believing. It is NOT intended for the crime of assault, but rather the military act of assault.

We are not advocating a change of name. The liberals are the ones that changed the name. A semi-automatic rifle is a semi-automatic rifle. To call it an assault rifle IS changing its name.

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What's that smell?????


Is it TROLL? Or just rotten eggs?

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Where the hell is Tango??

I believe he coined the term 'Sport Utility Rifle' or SUR for exactly this application.

There are no "ASSAULT" weapons because the word "assault" is a noun that is used in conjunction with a statement intended to make it a verb.

Unless your weapon can perform an action on it's own WITH INTENT, then it can not be an assault weapon.

Hence, in these parts, SUR is the correct and beloved term.

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An assault rifle is by the most commonly used definition in the gun/military community is a shoulder fired, air cooled, detachable magazine fed, using an intermediate power rifle cartridge that is capable of selectable semi automatic OR full automatic/burst fire.


The term is misused, deliberately by the liberal media and politicians to demonize all self loading firearms. We prefer the term SUR or Sport Utility Rifle.
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OK, back to the question at hand. If you want a scoped semi-auto w/ iron sight capability, the AK is real easy.



In the days gone by it was the norm for military Sniper rifles.
These are side mounts.

This is a low turret w/ See through rings as all German Snipers were.

More modern, 1960's..'70's vintage.

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^^^^ I agree on the side-mount; my buddy's relatively inexpensive WASR10 (semi-auto AK-type multi-purpose rifle ) came with the mounting points for an inexpensive removable side-mount rig. There is a popular one that has two picatinny rails to allow the attachment of not only a scope but also a laser pointer for amusing your pets.


example http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/AKS006-6.html

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So how does it allow for both Optics and irons??? It is a sight!!
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As long as you have a picitinny rail, they make the small adapter that goes out to the side at a 45 degree angle that you can mount a sight such as the burris red dot, compact and easy to use. The mount is even scalloped so it can fit under the scope, I think it's made by weaver, about $27.00. I have one and find that it's very well made and works fantastic.
I put a light on mine so I can just hit the switch on the back for monentary on-off use. I don't like the cords and pad that always seems in the way.
It positions the light so I can just use one finger and easily turn on the light when I want and still have a grip for fast fire if needed.
If your scope goes south, just turn on the red dot, cant your semi auto rifle to a 45 degree angle and fire away, nice and compact and you can keep the scope down low to the rail.

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