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 01-04-2011, 10:11 PM | #1 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 111 |  optics and iron sights at same time
Does anyone know of an assault rifle that you can mount optics to, but also use the iron sights without removing the optics in case it malfunctions? | 
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| 01-04-2011, 10:34 PM | #2 | Dead Wolves = Good Wolves Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Rochester WI, Rochester WI Posts: 8,314 Liked 4 Times on 4 Posts
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you would need either a see through mount or co-witness sights/optic combo.
my colt SP1 ar15 has a scope on the carry handle which you can look under and still use the irons.
flattop ARs can utilize optical sights with iron sights its called co-witness.
but mine arent assault rifles. ive never assaulted anyone with any of my firearms.
there are far more assault cars, assault fists, assault knives, assault boots, assault bats in the world than assault rifles. very few firearms are used to assault people compaired to other objects. please dont call them that since that isnt what they are. __________________
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| 01-05-2011, 01:15 AM | #3 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 111 |
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you would need either a see through mount or co-witness sights/optic combo.
my colt SP1 ar15 has a scope on the carry handle which you can look under and still use the irons.
flattop ARs can utilize optical sights with iron sights its called co-witness.
but mine arent assault rifles. ive never assaulted anyone with any of my firearms.
there are far more assault cars, assault fists, assault knives, assault boots, assault bats in the world than assault rifles. very few firearms are used to assault people compaired to other objects. please dont call them that since that isnt what they are.
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They may not always be used for assault, but that is what they're made for, hence the name. | |
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| 01-05-2011, 01:55 AM | #4 | Dead Wolves = Good Wolves Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Rochester WI, Rochester WI Posts: 8,314 Liked 4 Times on 4 Posts
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They may not always be used for assault, but that is what they're made for, hence the name.
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the term assault rifle is term coined by adolf hitler. it is a translation of sturmgewehr. the liberal media in america quickly adopted it to demonize all military style rifles.
so if you want to feed the myth of assault rifles and let the liberal media continue to demonize firearms its up to you. __________________
"Gun control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound." — L. Neil Smith
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| 01-05-2011, 02:22 AM | #5 | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 177 |
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you would need either a see through mount or co-witness sights/optic combo.
my colt SP1 ar15 has a scope on the carry handle which you can look under and still use the irons.
flattop ARs can utilize optical sights with iron sights its called co-witness.
but mine arent assault rifles. ive never assaulted anyone with any of my firearms.
there are far more assault cars, assault fists, assault knives, assault boots, assault bats in the world than assault rifles. very few firearms are used to assault people compaired to other objects. please dont call them that since that isnt what they are.
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Yes please dont video game lingo guns, please. a rifle is a rifle, a pistole is a pistol, and so on if you wanted to you cold assault with any firearm. To offer an answer to your question there are many options for just about any rifle out there if you have the money. Ak's, Ar's, Mini 14's, so on. By the way JonM how is that carry handle doing for you? __________________
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| 01-05-2011, 04:03 AM | #6 | Dead Wolves = Good Wolves Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Rochester WI, Rochester WI Posts: 8,314 Liked 4 Times on 4 Posts
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By the way JonM how is that carry handle doing for you?
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waiting on a sight base thingy to knock the fsb pins out so i can swap barrel nuts the one on my current barrel doesnt line up with enough torque. got it on order. __________________
"Gun control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound." — L. Neil Smith
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| 01-05-2011, 07:13 PM | #7 | Supporting Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 641 |
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They may not always be used for assault, but that is what they're made for, hence the name.
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rifle w/full auto= assault rifle | |
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| 01-05-2011, 07:26 PM | #8 | Moderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Austin, Texas, by God!! Posts: 6,061 |
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They may not always be used for assault, but that is what they're made for, hence the name.
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"Assault" or "Sturm" in German is used in the Military sense not the penal code sense. To assault a position and take it by force of arms. No one in this day and age of belt fed machine guns would "assault" a fortified position with semi-automatic firearms.
An assault rifle is by the most commonly used definition in the gun/military community is a shoulder fired, air cooled, detachable magazine fed, using an intermediate power rifle cartridge that is capable of selectable semi automatic OR full automatic/burst fire.
An AR-15 is NOT an assault rifle.
An M-16 IS an assault rifle.
A true AK-47 (or AKM or AK-74) IS an assault rifle.
The semi-automatic copies of AK-47's are NOT assault rifles.
An M-1 carbine is NOT an assault rifle.
An M-2 carbine (while selective fire) is NOT an assault rifle, the cartridge is too weak to be considered an intermediate rifle cartridge.
An M-14 is NOT an assault rifle. The cartridge is considered a FULL POWER rifle cartridge.
An M-1A is NOT an assault rifle. It is not selective fire.
The MP-43/MP-44/StG-44 IS the original assault rifle. Hitler allegedly coined the name Sturmgewer (Storm rifle, Assault rifle).
The term is misused, deliberately by the liberal media and politicians to demonize all self loading firearms. We prefer the term SUR or Sport Utility Rifle. __________________
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| 01-05-2011, 08:17 PM | #9 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 111 |
I understand that the vast majority of civilian assault rifles are not used for assault, but they are clearly modified versions of military assault rifles. If I take a tank, slow down its rate of fire a little bit, and use it to demolish old buildings, it's still a tank. There is no need for a name change. | |
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| 01-05-2011, 08:42 PM | #10 | Dead Wolves = Good Wolves Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Rochester WI, Rochester WI Posts: 8,314 Liked 4 Times on 4 Posts
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There is no need for a name change.
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the name change is changing a rifle name into a politically correct 'assault rifle" in order to bring about feelings of fear from the unwashed who think keith oberman is a genius. liberals use that term to give a bad name to an inanimate object so they can ban all weapons. __________________
"Gun control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound." — L. Neil Smith
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