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potentialglock 01-02-2013 11:58 PM

new black rifle
 
Put a saiga 5.45x39 on layaway today. Comes with one 30 round mag. I got so excited about the price that other than checking the function of the gun I didn't even think to ask more about it. I know that similar guns chambered in the same caliber go for 800-900$

potentialglock 01-03-2013 12:03 AM

So is $550 good?

Jstrong 01-03-2013 12:08 AM

Yes I'd say so if its already converted,I spent more than that converting my x39 saiga

potentialglock 01-03-2013 12:44 AM

I'm jc the conversion means what exactly?

Jstrong 01-03-2013 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by potentialglock
I'm jc the conversion means what exactly?

Saigas are imported in a sporting format with out a pistol grip,the trigger and FCG are also in non traditional locations for a AK variant rifle.

If it has a pistol grip and looks like an AK then its been converted,and if it hasn't then using a 30 round magazine is in violation of 922(r). Post a picture and I'll tell you for sure

potentialglock 01-03-2013 01:42 AM

Wait....no pistol grip means a 30 round mag is illegal??

Jstrong 01-03-2013 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by potentialglock
Wait....no pistol grip means a 30 round mag is illegal??

For a foriegn saiga rifle,it must be imported in compliance with 922r. You can't attach a pistol grip or use high capacity magazines or have any features of a "assault rifle". You can convert it to be able to legally use these type of items such as high-cap mags,pistol grips,bayonet lugs,flash-hiders by putting 4 (four) U.S. made parts in it (as far as AK type weapons go,other rifle platforms require different amount of U.S. made parts based on total number of parts). Most people achieve the four U.S made parts by replacing the fire control group with a American made one which counts as three parts (trigger,hammer,and sear) and then attaching a American made stock or fore-end.

The whole premise this law is that a so called "assault rifle" that's made with no American parts is somehow more evil or dangerous than one with American parts in it.

Yea... I know its goofy. But that our politicians for you.

So in short,no you can't use anything above ten round magazines in a unconverted saiga rifle legally.

potentialglock 01-03-2013 12:09 PM

If the gun shop is selling it with a 30 rd mag wouldn't it have to already be converted?

potentialglock 01-03-2013 01:02 PM

Has anybody else ever seen a gun for the first time and heard it say "I am your gun". "I am going to go home with you." Then you bought it without a second thought?

potentialglock 01-03-2013 03:29 PM

Where can I find 5.45x39 ammo? Every online store is out of stock


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