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Old 10-31-2013, 03:51 AM   #11
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No. It's not a good deal. You can get a very high quality AR for 1200-1500.

You can get a reliable AR that will last you many years for $700-$1000 ARs are like legos. You can build whatever you want.

If I had $2000 to burn I'd buy a reliable home defense AR and look into a separate upper for long distance. It wouldn't even be a stretch for that budget.

Or id find a nice AR chambered in .308

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Old 11-01-2013, 05:44 AM   #12
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Sounds like you have the money so you don't need a budget AR. I would buy a colt 6920 and be done with it

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Quite frankly, any AR much above 1.5K has features that are of dubious value for home defense. Shockingly, Uncle Sam sends most of his boys and girls into the field with carbines that cost far less than that.

Get a 1K Colt 6720 (pencil barrel profile, the one I prefer) or 6920 (M4 barrel profile, in case you need your 40MM grenade launcher for home defense- everyone's got one of them lyin around, right?). A good AR carbine will hit a man sized target at 300 yards without issue. Anything that's best suited for precision long range shooting is probably sub-optimal to poor for close range shooting.

Anyhow, a lightweight barrel and a lightweight upper without a bunch of crap on it is what you want for home defense.

Colt 6720 - $1,000
Aimpoint Comp M3 - $600 or EoTech XPS $500
SureFire X300 (older 170 lumen model, newer 500 lumen model will blind everyone in the room including you) - $150
Adjustable Single Point or Two Point Sling - $30-$50
BCM Gunfighter Charging Handle - $55
Tools, batteries, cleaning supplies, spare parts $100
PMAG's - $140 for 10 of the 30 round PMAG M3 magazines

That's a much better allocation of funds for 2K spent.

Don't worry, you'll spend a lot more than 2K on ammo. The carbine and accessories will seem cheap by way of comparison.

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I'll throw another wrench in the works.

How long is that barrel? What do you consider long range? Few guns are good for both CQB (home defense ) and long range (600 yds and more).

You could probably build one god under that price, but I'd want to figure out the primary role first.
For the stated purposes, this $$$$ AR is an overkill for home defense, and as said above, possibly not enough barrel for long range. It's a tall order if taken literally. Any case, I also see a lot of sound and fury in the vendors description. For this price, no go.
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I have looked at this same AR in 6.8 SPC. My intended purpose is a 500 yard bench gun, predator gun, and select CXP2 game hunting. This model will have a base weight of 9-10#. Add a full magazine and optics to that and you have a heavy gun. I have a Franklin HTF-4 and really like the gun. It is accurate and durable. Is 2K a lot for a AR? Absolutely! However, if it meets your needs I don't think you will disappointed with the Franklin. Having said that there are many options at the 2K price point.

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I have looked at this same AR in 6.8 SPC. My intended purpose is a 500 yard bench gun, predator gun, and select CXP2 game hunting. This model will have a base weight of 9-10#. Add a full magazine and optics to that and you have a heavy gun. I have a Franklin HTF-4 and really like the gun. It is accurate and durable. Is 2K a lot for a AR? Absolutely! However, if it meets your needs I don't think you will disappointed with the Franklin. Having said that there are many options at the 2K price point.
I don't doubt that Franklin builds a good gun. Hard to build a bad one with that parts list. But it seems kinda high when I just built a precision 6.8 for ~$900! And the original poster wants a gun that will do long range and self defense both. You could do a single lower and a pair of purpose specific uppers in this price range. Probably a better option for his budget!
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You can get an awesome, extremely reliable and accurate AR-15 from Argyle Armoring for a lot less than that and it's billet not forged aluminum.

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i guess the OP didn't like the suggestions and advice!

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i guess the OP didn't like the suggestions and advice!
Reckon that was Franklin Armory doing some research?
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Reckon that was Franklin Armory doing some research?
never thought of that. but, that's quite possible. small company wanting some feedback and opinions without calling attention to themselves by posting on gun forums, and then sitting back and seeing what people are saying and thinking.
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