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Old 10-31-2013, 01:35 AM   #1
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I am looking at this gun for home defense and long range shooting applications. For the price is it a good gun or should I go with something else. The rifle runs about $2,000. I'm new to AR's so any input is much appreciated!

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TMR-L

Barrel:
Chambered in 5.56 NATO or 6.8 SPC
Salt Bath Nitride Chamber, Bore, & Finish
20” Full-Heavy Contour Barrel 1/8-Inch Twist (1/10-Inch 6.8 SPC)
11 Degree Target Crown with Recessed Muzzle Crown
Low Profile Gas Block with Rifle Length Gas System
FSR 15” Rail System

Upper Receiver:
Franklin Armory Proprietary Billet Upper Receiver
Machined From 7075-T6 Aluminum
Hard Coat Type III Anodized Black, Desert Smoke, or Olive Drab Green
Full Picatinny Rail
Badger Ordnance Gen 1 Tac Latch
Forward Assist
Phosphate Bolt Carrier Group

Lower Receiver:
Franklin Armory Proprietary Billet Lower Receiver
Machined From 7075-T6 Aluminum
Hard Coat Type III Anodized Black, Desert Smoke, or Olive Drab Green
Flared Magazine Well for Quick Magazine Changes
Ambidextrous Push Button QD Sling Mounts
Integral Cold Weather Trigger Guard
Serrated Memory Index Point for Shooting Finger
Textured Front Area for Offhand Grip
Specialized Tension Screw - Eliminates Upper/Lower Play
Franklin Armory Factory Custom Tuned Trigger
Bullet Button™ Magazine Release (for Restricted States)
Ergo Ambi Sure Grip

Magazine:
Magpul Pmag P20 with Anti-Tilt Follower
Magpul 10/20 DLX Pmag with Mag Punch (for Restricted States)

Stock:
Magpul PRS Stock
Snag Free Design and Sling Mountable
Adjustable Comb Height and Length of Pull
Bottom Picatinny Rail for Mounting of Monopod

Additional Features:
Comprehensive Safety Manual
California Certified Cable Lock
Complimentary Lockable Case
Specify Color:
ODG/DS (5.56 NATO Only)

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Old 10-31-2013, 01:40 AM   #2
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Two grand for an AR?!

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Way high. You can get a lot more gun for that kind of money. ~$700 is right for an entry level AR. Use the excess to buy a really good optic and plenty of ammo. Start out basic and learn if its your first AR. You will quickly find out what you need and what you don't. Its hard to go wrong with basic milspec on the first AR.

Home defense and long range shooting really don't go together. A gun that is built for long distance work will be overheavy and awkward for home defense. The defense gun won't have the accuracy that a long distance gun needs. Guess I'm saying you can have one or the other but not both in the same rifle.

AR's can be built as anything from pistols w/5" barrels to long range hunters w/26" barrels. The carbine 16" barrel with a mid length gas system is what most of us consider to be an ideal self defense weapon. The barrel can be shorter but you need SBR paperwork and tax stamp. A 20" or longer heavy barrel is the usual distance shooter(400 yds+). Its pretty heavy 9lbs or more depending largely on the barrel.

http://palmettostatearmory.com/ Look at their complete uppers and lowers. Anyone can assemble the upper to lower, (two pins) and you need to know how to do it to clean the gun anyway. Sign up for the email list and watch their specials. Most of us here do...

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They do all sound like very high end specs.
But thats a high price even for a high end AR.
2k is close to what LWRCs go for

PS: I am sure Franklin Armoy makes fine rifles. But at that price you can get a Noveske,or a EAG edition (aka gold plated) BCM, or sometimes you see the LWRCM6A2 "Basic" for under 2k.

Otherwise there are some very fine and high end guns out there for 1200-1400 Bucks.
Dont overpay or you will regret your buy and wont be able to enjoy it.

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Two grand for an AR?!
I've got more than that in my Noveske ;-)
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If it was me. I'd get a less expensive, but great quality home defense AR.
Then I would buy a separate upper for long distance.
Probably be able to do it for around $2000.

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I've got more than that in my Noveske ;-)
Too true, my varmit rifle was about 2K, but the specs were a bit higher
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I'll throw another wrench in the works.

How long is that barrel? What do you consider long range? Few guns are good for both CQB (home defense ) and long range (600 yds and more).

You could probably build one god under that price, but I'd want to figure out the primary role first.

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The price of AR15 rifles is dropping every day. Unless this is going to be a Christmas gift I would wait until after Christmas to buy a rifle. Retailers will be a little nervous about inventory that hasn't moved. There is always a short burst of buying after hunting season. People that were not happy with the rifle they hunted with will often buy right after hunting season so they have a whole year to get used to the rifle. After the hunters find a rifle it's a buyers market. Things get slow and gun shops need cash to keep the lights on. I love the sweet deals of oversupply.

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