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ARIZ 04-21-2009 03:44 PM

Difficult question!!!!
 
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Is there any international gun (ASSAULT RIFLES) manufacturer with no presence in the usa market??????????

Dillinger 04-21-2009 04:08 PM

Define your parameters.

How many guns do they have to produce to be a manufacturer in your question?

How do you define "presence in the USA market"

Example: H & K produces several weapons that are not available for sale in the US civilian market ( 416 & 417 ), but they have other models that are available for LEO and Military sales ( MP series ).

ARIZ 04-21-2009 04:29 PM

I would consider a manufacturer, for example one "factory" which could produce more 200 weapons of each model of their catalogue, the catalogue could be only one type of weapond in different calibers.

Related to the presence in the USA market, I would consider that HK for example has presence, perhaps not with every model but they have presence. I am thinking about a company with absolutely no presence.


Thanks for the comments

matt g 04-21-2009 06:56 PM

Name one arms company in the world, I can guarantee you that they've sold, at least, a few small arms type weapons in the US.

Darth AkSarBen 05-21-2014 12:03 PM

To my knowledge, neither of one of these : Sayyad and Siavash have any presences in the U.S. Both are manufactured in Iran, and are clones or copies of other rifles, mostly sniper rifles, but I am guessing that they also have assault weapons that are made in Iran from both countries that only sell to close by countries in the Middle East. ref: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/05/13/report-iraqi-snipers-iranian-rifles/

clr8ter 05-21-2014 12:15 PM

Interesting question. Difficult to prove, though, as defined by the OP's "absolutely no presence." I assume we're talking strictly small arms?

c3shooter 05-21-2014 12:26 PM

Would assume that will include the National armories of places like China, N. Korea, Libya, Iran, etc etc.

Inasmuch as a true "assault rifle" is capable of full auto fire, none can be sold to a private citizen in the US if made after May 1986.

Darth AkSarBen 05-24-2014 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by c3shooter (Post 1579394)
...Inasmuch as a true "assault rifle" is capable of full auto fire, none can be sold to a private citizen in the US if made after May 1986.

Interesting point your brought up and I happen to have just stubled across this web link that maybe "trusts" which are not corporatons nor actual citizens may be able to make post 1886 full auto weapons. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/05/16/atf-inadvertently-open-door-machine-guns-trusts/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_conten t=2014-05-21&utm_campaign=Weekly+Newsletter

clr8ter 05-24-2014 01:45 PM

Mmmm, that is not my understanding. Plus, something that the govt. thinks you "may" be able to do is probably not something you want to try. And there would be the problem of a seller agreeing with you and willing to take a chance selling you post '86 something. Goood Luck.

BillM 05-24-2014 02:14 PM

Might have found one. Myanmar Heavy Industries makes the EMER K-1 assault rifle. I can
find no current or past presence in the US.

Question is tougher than it looks. A lot of the assault rifle manufacturers may not have a presence in the
US in the firearms industry--but they are here in other industries. Example: EMEC is also a manufacturer
of assault rifles for Myanmar---but they have a US presence in testing/monitoring equipment for water treatment.


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