[TXnorton]

I vote (do we get to vote?) with CA357, I will be picking up my M1A on Tuesday. I had been debating the choice of an AR-10 versus the M1A for over a year.

The M1A won out, for me it was probably due to the classic nature of the M-14 type rifle, and the fact that it fills two empty spaces in my collection of rifles - 1) longer range SHTF rifle, and 2) it helps fill in my US military collection between my Garand and my two AR's (I know its not a real M14 just like my AR's are not real M-16/M-4's).

As I already have 2 AR's and a nice AK, I did not "need" another "black rifle", but your situation is different than mine.

If you do opt for the AR-10, take a look at the Rock River Arms LAR-308's.

[753X0]

If you have the chance snap up an AR-10. If you get someone like John Noveske work it over you'll have something that is capable of this:



Or if you like the M1-A, you'll end up with a rifle like this, if you let Accuracy Speaks work on it.



That is capable of this accuracy.

[unknwnshooter]

OUTSTANDING 753XO, it is great to hear from someone who not only posses the technical knowledge, but also the Marksmanship Skills which you have shown. KUDOS to you Sir !. Amazing Groups....you should be proud. I began my service in the Army in 1981, first with the 20th Special Forces Group then the 5th and finally the 7th, most of my service has been as a Sniper, everywhere from Central America, Grenada, Panama, Desert Storm, Somalia, 3 tours in Iraq and 3 in Afghanistan. My first choice of weapons has always been the M-14 for close in (anything out to 800 meters) and a Car-16 as a backup. We now refer to the "New M-14" as the M-25, and it has never let me down. It is a fine weapon system period, and has sent many hadji's and skinnies on to the promise of a collection of virgins. Again I commend you on you knowledge and your skills. De Opresso Libre

[753X0]

Thanks unknwnshooter, I was raised reloading and shooting. One of my earliest memories was helping my dad set up targets at varying distances and seeing which one of us could guess the range. He always got it right, til I was about 15. I finally outshot him, but it took a heck of a lot of rounds downrange.
Not to toot my own horn, but I went on in later years and competed. I earned the Distinguished Rifleman badge and the the Distinguished Pistol shot badge.
The M1-A in the pic is the rifle I used, after I stopped competition shooting I altered it to what you see now. Actually Accuracy Speaks, (Derrick Martin) did the work.

ETA: From your history, it sounds like we may have crossed paths.

[CA357]

TX, now you need a Garand in your collection.

[Yunus]

Regarding shotguns, I will get 2 barrels for whatever I get, one for clay's and one for defense, any opinions on the mossberg 930 vs the remington 11-87 for cycling the lighter loads?

[jpattersonnh]

Originally Posted by CA357

M1A and enough left over for a Mossberg pump 12 gauge.

Makes sense to me!

[Yunus]

So I pretty much cheaped out on both purchases. I bought the Saiga .308 for a SHTF gun (can't pick it up till next week) and got a remington 870 for a shotgun. I decided on the 870 because I can convert it to a HD gun very easily if I want to in the future and it was inexpensive and it's a reliable gun. I guess in the long run if I want a good semi-auto for sporting clay's I will probably spend the money and get a better gun than I was considering right now.

Range reports to follow, well at least for the Saiga, do we really need an 870 report

I still want an M1A though, so just give me some time to save up some more money.