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cakesterkiller 11-28-2012 09:46 PM

CETME range day
 
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i took my new to me CETME out to the range today just to see what its issues were. because the guy i got it from warned me that it might need some attention and the charging handle felt gritty. after about 15 minutes of YouTube videos I was able to take down and clean without any problems and that made a word of difference in the way this rifle felt... soooooo much smoother. my buddy and I went to the range here in town and put a couple boxes of Winchester super X through it and it functioned perfectly. the only complaint either one of us had was the impact was a little left of point of aim at 200 yards but only a matter of 6-8 inches. the gun itself is beat up and needs new furniture as well as an optic and maybe even a paint job before im done with it.... for a gun that I traded a Remington 870 for I couldn't be happier

JonM 11-28-2012 09:50 PM

most military style 308 were designed to run 147 grain loads try that and see where the poi is. different bullets will have different poi when they are drastically different weights.

cakesterkiller 11-28-2012 10:34 PM

i was running 150 grain through it today but it was holding a nice group with em i just figure on getting a nice low power scope for it im thinkin 2x7 or 1x4

cakesterkiller 12-28-2012 07:01 PM

so the second time I took the rifle out I got to fire 3 shots then the tiny little pin that holds the recoil spring assembly together broke inside the stock and totally locked the gun up... but that's ok cause that and the stock itself were the first parts on my list of things that get replaced

robocop10mm 12-28-2012 10:10 PM

The CETME is chambered for 7.62 X 51 NOT .308. Pressures are higher in the .308, but more importanly the fluted chamber and delayed roller locking mechanism is VERY rough on the brass case.

I use .308 cases to handload for my HK and CETME, but I keep the pressures down and rarely have case failures. You WILL have a case separation eventually. Get a stuck case remover. You will need it eventually.

cakesterkiller 12-29-2012 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by robocop10mm (Post 1069738)
The CETME is chambered for 7.62 X 51 NOT .308. Pressures are higher in the .308, but more importanly the fluted chamber and delayed roller locking mechanism is VERY rough on the brass case.

I use .308 cases to handload for my HK and CETME, but I keep the pressures down and rarely have case failures. You WILL have a case separation eventually. Get a stuck case remover. You will need it eventually.

can ya please tell me what the exact difference is between the G3 and the CETME? I've heard that century arms used re-barreled G3 recivers when they were producing 922r legit CETMEs

climate17 12-29-2012 04:04 PM

The cetme is based of the hk91 and the g3 is the same with small differences in things like the Saftey. Some of the furniture is different too. It's kinda like the difference between a yugo Ak and a Bulgarian Ak. If you take my meaning. For all intensive purposes they are the same and nearly every thing is interchangeable. At least that's what I remember.

robocop10mm 12-29-2012 09:05 PM

Actually the CETME pre-dates the HK-91 (G-3) There is significant parts interchangeability

YES, the below HK parts will work perfect on a Cetme
Barrels Yes
Barrel Retainer Pins Yes
Firing Pin Yes*
Spring, for firing pin Yes*
Rollers Yes
+2, +4 Rollers Yes
Retainer Plate and Roll Pin Retainer for Rollers Yes
Extractor Yes*
Extractor Spring Yes*
Recoil Spring Yes*
Backplate or Complete recoil Assembly Yes with minor fitting to the plastic sleeve at the end of the spring guide rod
Complete Stock set Yes with minor fitting to the plastic sleeve at the end of the spring guide rod
Collapsible Stock Yes with minor fitting to the plastic sleeve at the end of the spring guide rod
Buttstock Yes with minor fitting (needs the buffer hole matched to use the cetme buffer)
Grip Frames Yes
Complete Trigger Pack Yes (but no individual parts)
Rear Sight Yes (but only if entire sight base is swapped)
Handguards, Slim Yes
Handguards Wide Yes with minor fitting. Just like the old style HK triple frame, the cetme has a bipod retaining ring that prevents the wide from installing
Pistol Grip Yes
Triple Frames Yes
Flash Hider Yes
Eyeloop for triple frame Yes
Cocking Handle Yes*
Spring for cocking handle Yes*
Pivot Pin for cocking handle Yes
Mag Catch parts Yes
Paddle mag release Yes
End Cap, Dust Cover Yes (but cetme will not fit g3)
Bayonet Adapter Yes*
Bayonet Yes* (only when using adapter)
Retainer Pins Yes*
Blank Firing Adapter Yes
Claw, Stanag Scope Mount Yes
POF Carry handle and Port Buffer Yes (carry handle slight modification to cetme handguard)

*these items not only interchange but are an improvement over existing Cetme parts. Over the years some items have been strengthened or improved by HK.

No, the below HK parts will not work on a Cetme:
Trunions No
Bolt Carriers No
Locking Lever for bolt carrier No
Bolt Head No
Locking Piece No
Cocking Tube No
Support for Cocking Handle No
Recoil Buffer No unless using HK buttstock
individual fire control group parts like trigger, sear, hammer: No

The above shamelessly stolen from Robertrtg.com.

cakesterkiller 12-30-2012 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by robocop10mm (Post 1071013)
Actually the CETME pre-dates the HK-91 (G-3) There is significant parts interchangeability

YES, the below HK parts will work perfect on a Cetme
Barrels Yes
Barrel Retainer Pins Yes
Firing Pin Yes*
Spring, for firing pin Yes*
Rollers Yes
+2, +4 Rollers Yes
Retainer Plate and Roll Pin Retainer for Rollers Yes
Extractor Yes*
Extractor Spring Yes*
Recoil Spring Yes*
Backplate or Complete recoil Assembly Yes with minor fitting to the plastic sleeve at the end of the spring guide rod
Complete Stock set Yes with minor fitting to the plastic sleeve at the end of the spring guide rod
Collapsible Stock Yes with minor fitting to the plastic sleeve at the end of the spring guide rod
Buttstock Yes with minor fitting (needs the buffer hole matched to use the cetme buffer)
Grip Frames Yes
Complete Trigger Pack Yes (but no individual parts)
Rear Sight Yes (but only if entire sight base is swapped)
Handguards, Slim Yes
Handguards Wide Yes with minor fitting. Just like the old style HK triple frame, the cetme has a bipod retaining ring that prevents the wide from installing
Pistol Grip Yes
Triple Frames Yes
Flash Hider Yes
Eyeloop for triple frame Yes
Cocking Handle Yes*
Spring for cocking handle Yes*
Pivot Pin for cocking handle Yes
Mag Catch parts Yes
Paddle mag release Yes
End Cap, Dust Cover Yes (but cetme will not fit g3)
Bayonet Adapter Yes*
Bayonet Yes* (only when using adapter)
Retainer Pins Yes*
Blank Firing Adapter Yes
Claw, Stanag Scope Mount Yes
POF Carry handle and Port Buffer Yes (carry handle slight modification to cetme handguard)

*these items not only interchange but are an improvement over existing Cetme parts. Over the years some items have been strengthened or improved by HK.

No, the below HK parts will not work on a Cetme:
Trunions No
Bolt Carriers No
Locking Lever for bolt carrier No
Bolt Head No
Locking Piece No
Cocking Tube No
Support for Cocking Handle No
Recoil Buffer No unless using HK buttstock
individual fire control group parts like trigger, sear, hammer: No

The above shamelessly stolen from Robertrtg.com.

thank you.... seriously... I've had the rifle for about a month now and you're the first person that could actually tell me all of that everybody else just hmmm's and haw's when I ask those questions

robocop10mm 12-30-2012 03:03 PM

The CETME/HK platform is a specialized arena. I happen to be "in" the arena for about 20 years. Ask me about M-14/M1A's and I will defer to others.


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