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OUDAN 05-03-2013 05:43 PM

To build a AR or M?
 
I am starting to look at building my own AR15 or M4, I have heard this is very easy to do and that most people can do it. Anyone have any experience? Also any reasons why I should go with AR or M instead of the other? I do know that the AR is more accurate but I much prefer the shorter M4. I am new I the "tactical" weapons I could use some advice. Thanks in advance everyone!!

duddie10 05-03-2013 05:51 PM

Well it all depends on what u are going to do with the rifle. If its a paper puncher at 200yds then go a full size 20" or 24" or if you want to use it for run and guns, go with an 14.5-18". It also depends on your skills. Just know if you build the rifle ur putting ur life and every other persons life in your hand the first time you pull that trigger. Oh and m4s are for mil only. You can have something that looks like an m4 but it wont be select fire. This forum likes to be politicly correct. Lol

OUDAN 05-03-2013 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by duddie10
Well it all depends on what u are going to do with the rifle. If its a paper puncher at 200yds then go a full size 20" or 24" or if you want to use it for run and guns, go with an 14.5-18". It also depends on your skills. Just know if you build the rifle ur putting ur life and every other persons life in your hand the first time you pull that trigger. Oh and m4s are for mil only. You can have something that looks like an m4 but it wont be select fire. This forum likes to be politicly correct. Lol

I really much prefer the shorter M4 style, see I thought I saw a Colt M4 I could buy.....am I correct that the AR and Ms share a lot of the same pieces? In short as u can tell the tactical side if this isn't my strong suit but I love the M4 style. If I can't buy or build a M4 then how do others have them? Sorry I'm confused lol.

duddie10 05-03-2013 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OUDAN (Post 1235448)

I really much prefer the shorter M4 style, see I thought I saw a Colt M4 I could buy.....am I correct that the AR and Ms share a lot of the same pieces? In short as u can tell the tactical side if this isn't my strong suit but I love the M4 style. If I can't buy or build a M4 then how do others have them? Sorry I'm confused lol.

Yes almost every thing for the ar platform is interchangeble. U have to make sure you know that your lower is tho. Its either going to be a mil-spec or a commerical. All my ars ar mil spec. Its a prefrence. People fight over it all the time. The only difference i think is the trigger pins. Of corse it held to a differece standerd ie milspec. If you run a milspec buffer tube then u need to make sure ur stock is made for milspec. To be correct on the termonology the m4 is a select fire carbime with a 16" barrel m203 cuts on the barrel and a 6 position stock. You can look it up. Many people call there guns m4 but its still an ar15. To get back to the build. In the forsight what you pay for is what you get. Some good advice do alot of research find whats good and in your price range. My last ar build was a cmmg lower stag upper mag pul moe grips ace skeliton stock and aimpoint sight. All the internals are danial defence lower parts kit i switched the bolt out to a bravo company bcg and a titanum firing pin. Its my 4th build. And my second one to own for me.

duddie10 05-03-2013 09:22 PM

On and before i get if you want to run a 14.5" barrel make sure when u put a flash hider on it, it measures over 16" or its considered an sbr.

Axxe55 05-03-2013 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by duddie10 (Post 1235558)
On and before i get if you want to run a 14.5" barrel make sure when u put a flash hider on it, it measures over 16" or its considered an sbr.

Duddie yes you can do that and make it 16" minimum, but the flash suppressor or muzzle brake has to be permanently attached for it to be legal. as in pinned and welded. if the FS or MB can still be removed, then it'snot legally a 16" barrel but a 14.5" barrel according to the BATF, and there for a SBR, which would require a tax stamp.

SSGN_Doc 05-03-2013 10:04 PM

We generally call the M4 Clone rifles that civilians can own, either "clones" or "M4geries" because they are copies of the M4 but lack the ability to have select fire for full auto, or burst fire capability.

duddie10 05-03-2013 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by axxe55 (Post 1235575)

Duddie yes you can do that and make it 16" minimum, but the flash suppressor or muzzle brake has to be permanently attached for it to be legal. as in pinned and welded. if the FS or MB can still be removed, then it'snot legally a 16" barrel but a 14.5" barrel according to the BATF, and there for a SBR, which would require a tax stamp.

Yes thanks for that. I take it for granted in ct. If its not a preban then every this is one of the two.

duddie10 05-03-2013 10:28 PM

The best thing about the ar platform with a simple pull or push of ur takedown pins you can switch calibers. 223/556, 6.5, 6.8, 762x39, my favorite upper i have 50beowulf :) always nice to turn heads.

Axxe55 05-04-2013 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by duddie10 (Post 1235633)
Yes thanks for that. I take it for granted in ct. If its not a preban then every this is one of the two.

my reference is not anything to do with it being pre-ban or not but the legal minimum length of the barrel, which is 16" for a rifle. using a 14.5" barrel with a 1.5" FS or MB can make it legally a 16" barrel if the FS or MB are permanently attached, by pinning or welding. i was refering to BATF regulations, not state compliance.


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