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Old 07-31-2011, 08:16 PM   #31
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My picks for semi-auto would be.
1. M1 garand
2. M1a scout
3. FN FAL

My bolt action picks.

1. 1903A3
2. K-31
3. Finn M39

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I think this relies upon the individual user.

The M1s(all of them) are fine selections, especially for the

young, stout, battle ready, and willing.

I'm old. O-L-D. I won't kid myself that I'd last long in a pitched battle

or firefight.

I prefer simplicity, punch, accuracy. (and a built-in bayonet)

So I'd be in the weeds, with my M44. My hero days are over,

and like Josey Wales said, "dying ain't much of a living"...

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Give it a couple months to see if the cheap WalMart ammo comes through like they said but have you looked into the .300BLK? You can get plenty of ammo for it now but you're looking at around $179 per 200 rounds. It uses all the exact same parts, even mags, as an AR15 except the barrel so parts would be fairly simple to locate and cheap as well.

You mentioned SHTF which in my case would consist mostly of urban use. So a heavier round at 200-300 and in would be nice. And its light. My .300BLK weights less that most of my 5.56 rifles.

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During this discussion my thoughts have changed a bit. I first thought of a battle rifle as something that I could use to pound somebody's head in if it came to that, so "Battle" meant really stout.

The M1A, for example fits into that category perfectly.

But then I thought, "I ain't gonna do hand-to-hand if I don't have to. I'm gonna use handgun at that point or RUN!!!" So I went to thinking about a .308 hunting rifle.

But someone reminded me that cheaper hunting rifles are not designed for hundreds (or even dozens) of rounds between cleanings.

Thus I am back where I started.

I think I am pretty set on an M1A, but I don't have $1000 to $1500. So I'll probably get my hands on a Mosin 91/30 for $120 and spend $250 in ammo just so something is in my hands for this month.

Then save up in a year or two and buy something American.

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I would suggest that since you are looking in such a broad direction, you could choose logically depending on ammunition and parts availability tempered by cost of all the above.

Probably you should go with 7.62 Nato due to its availability and cost. If you are not reloading then Portuguese Berdan battle-pack ammunition is pretty cheap.

Parts may not be much of a question as the M1A, HK91 or FAL don't break much but what about accessorizing.

Are you going to buy all the do-dads that get you ready for Zombies or the apocalypse then the AR platform is where you find all those Hollywood toys (no disrespect, I love all of them) .

Probably you want a semi-rifle that potentially reaches out to ranges beyond 100m with accuracy. So any of the above will do.

For me, I went with an HK91 converted from an English G3 parts kit. I have always admired the G3 when visiting other countries we were training. I believe it has the best track record of durability and reliability in combat scenarios outside of the Kalashnikov types. And the Kalashnikov is no where near as accurate unless you have a Dragonov.

So look around long and hard at what is available in your price range and give long consideration to price and availability of ammunition, parts and accessories.

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pick up a Yugo in .308
or a Siaga in .308



I have a working century arms converted 7.62 MAS 49/56

Dont have a picture of a 49/56 but heres a model 49

It has a direct impingment gas system. 10 round detachable mags
scope compatable, the 49/56 had capability to launch rifle gernades.
bolt locks up like the SVT40/FN49/SKS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAS-49_rifle

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This is one I'll have with me on The Road. A short-barreled M1A will make it a little easier to pick off the closer zombies than the standard length.

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So the only question I have is, what do all you AR-AK-Socom-M14 guys

do in the event you shoot yourself dry, with the enemy at close range?

I prefer a stout, bashing, crashing, stabbing multi-purpose weapon.


But that's just me...

Don't get me wrong, I have a SKS, AK,Garand, etc, and they're fine

shooters...

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So the only question I have is, what do all you AR-AK-Socom-M14 guys

do in the event you shoot yourself dry, with the enemy at close range?

I prefer a stout, bashing, crashing, stabbing multi-purpose weapon.


But that's just me...

Don't get me wrong, I have a SKS, AK,Garand, etc, and they're fine

shooters...
The short M1A

Socom makes a

great club!
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