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Old 03-24-2014, 06:56 PM   #11
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My wife must be of Russian descent - it was easier for her to break down and re-assemble the AK 47

As far as AK bolt vs bolt carrier group/ charging handle, for me the AK is much easier to operate, no gymnastics involved

Overall AR is a better built rifle, no question. But probably not for every role.
As a matter of fact, moving the charger handle to the left (for a right handed shooter) would nicely eliminate the gymnastics. I'd love to have it there. But there is a reason the mainstream AR stays ambidextrous. The non-reciprocating handle was brilliant engineering, and it got rid of the metalic racket.

Reloading an AK requires manual cycling every time, because it has no bolt stop. Advantage: AR. But in trained hands the AK can be operated very quickly. The magazine latch actually comes handy. You strike it with a spare mag, thereby releasing and dropping the empty, then seat the spare, like a one-two punch.
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Your AR shoots some screamin fast bullets.

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didnt shoot cars?? maybe you should.. in my test on 1/4, and 1/2 inch steel plates the .223 went through, and left far more damage than the 7.62x39 round.

for me the AR is easier to strip. ak is easier to clean..and they make superb triggers for the ar. and a tiny little fun idea.. charging handle extensions. makes life lots easier to work the charging handle when optics are installed..
glad you made your first comparison.. now change some parts and try again..

AR always gets my vote

interesting test you must have conducted............it came out differently than this here scientific penetration test......
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Pretty fair comparison but I'd give the nod to the AR in Take-down/cleaning and Bolt operation.

I've had a cheap WASR-10 and a few good AR builds for years now and like them all. The WASR works well as do most AKs but there's really no comparison when you pick up an AR. But the 7.62x39 is a great round and well worth having so an AK to shoot it makes a lot of sense!

You probably could add a comparison of crap quality AK vs. crap quality AR, there's where the AK wins out.

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Your AR shoots some screamin fast bullets.
There's apples and oranges, but for hunting, once again, IMHO,

the .223/5.56 has a distinct advantage over the M43.
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interesting test you must have conducted............it came out differently than this here scientific penetration test......
Forget the 7.62x39. As far as AR vs AK, the true comparison is 5.54 vs 5.45.
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All the comments above make sense. I don't have an AR15, but I do have an AR10 caliber. For serious, longer range shooting, of course the AR. For fun at the range, nothing beats the AK pistol.

And for HD (if i had to use one or the other), give me the AK pistol over any AR15, any day. Of course, my mindset here is in or close to the house, not trying to pick someone off at the edge of the property.

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interesting test you must have conducted............it came out differently than this here scientific penetration test......
His test may not have involved M193 and M43 cartridges. M855 and M67 don't behave the same way. M855 does tend to penetrate a little better while M67 was designed to tumble.
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I have a hard time believing anyone even a newbie would take 20 minutes to field strip and reassemble a AK .

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Pretty fair comparison but I'd give the nod to the AR in Take-down/cleaning and Bolt operation.

I've had a cheap WASR-10 and a few good AR builds for years now and like them all. The WASR works well as do most AKs but there's really no comparison when you pick up an AR. But the 7.62x39 is a great round and well worth having so an AK to shoot it makes a lot of sense!

You probably could add a comparison of crap quality AK vs. crap quality AR, there's where the AK wins out.
perhaps it's an individual intuitive thing Quentin, but I was much quicker taking down an AK at first attempt than I was an AR. Of course, I am kind of a stubborn s.o.b. so perhaps I am that ignorant peasant so many people talk about when referring to this rifle lol
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