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... I would appreciate anyone's input on availability and cost to help me decide which is best. OR should I just hedge and try to purchase more than one rifle to follow a changing supply/demand.
What do you folks think?
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Honestly it's not a bad idea to have both the AR and AK. I'm committed to the AR but have to say it's fun to take out my AK once in a while.
Also it's smart to be knowledgeable with both platforms since 5.56/.223 and 7.62x39 are commonplace and relatively the same cost for steelcase. It doesn't have to be "either or". If not, try to handle and shoot both platforms and buy the one you prefer.
As far as AK magazines, I bought my AK over 5 years ago so like SSGN_Doc stocked up on cheap surplus magazines over the years. I haven't checked lately what AK mags cost but if any lightweight mags are reliable I'd like to try a couple. The good things about steel AK mags are reliability and toughness, the bad thing is weight (about a pound more than an AR mag).
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11-18-2012, 11:36 PM
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There are also a number of rifles that use the same AK-style action that are built for better precision. The Galil, Sig 556 ( in 5.56, 7.62x39, and .308), and Valmet, for example.
Very reliable, good precision...(higher cost, of course)
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11-19-2012, 12:37 PM
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Ak's are historically famous for its reliability. You can bury one in mud, water, sand, or 'garbage of sorts' for days, pick it up and begin shooting without mishap.
That's reliability!  With a 75 rd Chinese drum attached to its mag well it becomes a 'street-sweeper' in any shtf scenario close to home. AR's are known
for its accuracy via long distance, and also for its availability for 'window dressing.'
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11-19-2012, 12:47 PM
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Ak's are historically famous for its reliability. You can bury one in mud, water, sand, or 'garbage of sorts' for days, pick it up and begin shooting without mishap.
That's reliability! With a 75 rd Chinese drum attached to its mag well it becomes a 'street-sweeper' in any shtf scenario close to home. |
I would also argue that an AR can be built to withstand the same. Just an opinion, but I give my AR's hell. Probably more than I should given what they cost. I've had my throw around rifle in mud, water, dirt, sand, etc. and she has never failed in any way. I do always try to clean her up afterwards though.
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11-19-2012, 12:54 PM
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What kind of home defense are you talking about? EOTWAWKI?... Or daily just in case? If its the latter, get an 870 express with wood furniture and learn to use it.
Lord knows, I'd hate to have to explain my actions to the police and DA, when they're holding up my Bin Laden looking AK, or Aurora movie theater looking AR.
That's the reality of it if you take a life to defend yours. You will have to explain your actions.
I'd rather say someone broke in so I grabbed my ol' duck gun to save my life.
None of this applies if you live in Texas. Get a bazooka.
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Lol. Appreciate the thoughts fellows.
Yes the 870 is a great thought. Thought about that as well. I guess I have decided pretty much to get acquainted with all and maybe purchase all to have several platforms available.
Never know what the future may bring.
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11-21-2012, 03:24 PM
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Different subject I suppose, but what do you folks think about the colt le6920s that Walmart sells?
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11-23-2012, 09:49 PM
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Different subject I suppose, but what do you folks think about the colt le6920s that Walmart sells?
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Great choice!
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What is EOTWAWKI?
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11-25-2012, 12:34 AM
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Honestly it's not a bad idea to have both the AR and AK. I'm committed to the AR but have to say it's fun to take out my AK once in a while.
Also it's smart to be knowledgeable with both platforms since 5.56/.223 and 7.62x39 are commonplace and relatively the same cost for steelcase. It doesn't have to be "either or". If not, try to handle and shoot both platforms and buy the one you prefer.
As far as AK magazines, I bought my AK over 5 years ago so like SSGN_Doc stocked up on cheap surplus magazines over the years. I haven't checked lately what AK mags cost but if any lightweight mags are reliable I'd like to try a couple. The good things about steel AK mags are reliability and toughness, the bad thing is weight (about a pound more than an AR mag).
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This is the same question I asked myself, and I came to the same conclusion that Quentin came to. I had the same problem with hand guns as well. Glock is like the AK of the hand gun world, but im not a fanboy. I ended up getting the Glock for use as a tool, I carry a Glock. when I go shooting I shoot my Sig more for fun. With AR vs AK, I like the AR more, but the AK is still accurate up to 300 yards or so with iron sights in my opinion. If im shooting more then 300 yards I might as well be using my R700 in .308. So I shoot my AR for fun and my AK is a tool I keep with my year food supply.
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