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jjasonjames 11-16-2012 01:41 AM

AK vs. AR (and all the possibilities)
 
I am in the hunt for a useful rifle for self-defense. I have researched quite a bit over the last two weeks. I think that there are useful traits to each platform out there, but my REAL question is this:

If I buy a new semi-auto rifle for self-defencse/home protection, am I going to be able to get sufficient ammunition to put back for it?

I would appreciate anyone's input on availability and cost to help me decide which is best. OR should I just hedge and try to purchase more than one rifle to follow a changing supply/demand.

What do you folks think?

GaryGlock 11-16-2012 02:01 AM

Rounds for either platform are widely available right now and are probably goin to be produced for the next 30 years. 7.62 is a little cheaper than the AR rounds.
Also for the price of a cheap entry level AR you could buy yourself a pretty decent AK.
Both platforms are tried and true and its a matter of preference really.
I myself like guns that are simple and reliable and deffinitally favour Aks. I could go on and on that's just a little of my opinion.
P.S, welcome to FTF!

robertb6112 11-16-2012 02:02 AM

AK's are cheaper. And ammo is a little cheaper. But there not as accurate but you can beat the snot out of them and they will still fire. But it's like asking what's better a ford or Chevy haha.

The_Kid 11-16-2012 02:08 AM

Tula 7.62x39 ammo is commonly found for $5 a box of 20. I've used the 122gr HPs in my iron sighted AK, shooting a 3 shot 2moa group.

That is the extent of my experience.

purehavoc 11-16-2012 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Kid (Post 1016219)
Tula 7.62x39 ammo is commonly found for $5 a box of 20. I've used the 122gr HPs in my iron sighted AK, shooting a 3 shot 2moa group.

That is the extent of my experience.

My local Walmart carries tula in 7.62 and .223 both run $4.97 per box of 20 . Take ur pick :D

jjasonjames 11-16-2012 02:33 AM

So, what you folks are saying is that it's not that much of an issue. The choice is based on other characteristics that are purely what I want in the weapon itself, and that I shouldn't worry so much about it!!

(laughing) Thanks a lot.

SSGN_Doc 11-16-2012 02:33 AM

The AK is a decent gun for rough use, close up defensive employment. It is cheaper, more crude, teh ergonomics are not that great, but with a lot of practice, mag changes can become fairly smooth and even fairly quick with some more advanced techniques. With the AK you are kind of stuck with what you have as far as caliber and role goes. However, there are now rails for optics, forward handgrips, newer muzzle brakes, and synthetic furniture.

Where the AR excells is in the areas of modularity and ergonomics. Mag changes are much faster, smoother, and more intuitive than the AK. The ability to pop out two pins and swap uppers gives the AR a versatility that the AK does not have. You can have a precision upper witha match barrel and scope on it, and with a simple swap, change it to a lightweight carbine with fast handling characteristics and in a caliber that uses subsonic rounds for more subtle work. The ability to swap other parts is also usually a bit more simple with the AR, especially in the area of barrels. ARs can be swapped with hand tools while AK barrels are pressed in with a hydraulic press.

Accuracy is better with the AR, but for a defensive rifle, both platforms possess enough to get the job done.

JonM 11-16-2012 02:44 AM

good ar15 magazines are a lot more readily available and cheaper than equivelant ak mags. magazines are the weakpoint of any repeating arm.

SSGN_Doc 11-16-2012 03:06 AM

I stocked up on East German mags several years ago for $9 each, that are super durable.

I also noticed that I didn't say that if you want simple and not a lot of distractions, the AK is quite a machine. Most folks just can't seem to keep an AR simple, but they can be quite nice in raw form too.

AsSeenOnTV 11-16-2012 03:22 AM

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