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striker 05-22-2008 09:25 PM

ak vs ar
 
what is more accurate AK or AR, why?

h&k bigdaddydieseldan 05-22-2008 10:12 PM

ar hands down is more accurate :D :D :D :D

RONSERESURPLUS 05-23-2008 12:41 AM

Ak Vs Ar
 
Hello all/Responce to Striker and HK Big Daddy



Ron L here = SERESURPLUS

Yes, I totaly agree with H&K Big Daddy, for accuracy, the AR wins hands down! Thats due to tighter tollerences, a better made, better barrel, and components! As for folks talking about shooting out to 500 yards and killing it? Thats another Matter alltogether! Unless your talking punching holes in a paper target, forget that!

The AK will never beat the AR as far as being as accurate, but more than makes up for it in Reliability, resistenance to envornment, and lack of knowledge by users! Com-Bloc designs favor long term use and you can still see models of the AK-47 left over for early 50's in many countries and still rocking! I've seen some M-16A1's recovered in Peru, that the "Shinning path" had gotten on the Black market, these were Military Captured M16's From Viet Nam period and were sad loking and working! Many had anodizing worn through the finish, many did not still Function! Same lot of weapons had M-60 Light machine Guns, sadder condition still! In that same lot, wwre RPK, and RPD Machine guys, rusty as hell, worse for wear, but cleaned up, painted and re-issued to Poilce Units that next day! Big difference in what will last, what will be around and what stands the long test of time inthe field?

Righteous 05-23-2008 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RONSERESURPLUS (Post 25048)
Hello all/Responce to Striker and HK Big Daddy



Yes, I totaly agree with H&K Big Daddy, for accuracy, the AR wins hands down! Thats due to tighter tollerences, a better made, better barrel, and components! As for folks talking about shooting out to 500 yards and killing it? Thats another Matter alltogether! Unless your talking punching holes in a paper target, forget that!

The AK will never beat the AR as far as being as accurate, but more than makes up for it in Reliability, resistenance to envornment, and lack of knowledge by users! Com-Bloc designs favor long term use and you can still see models of the AK-47 left over for early 50's in many countries and still rocking!

+1 ........

Dgunsmith 05-23-2008 02:16 AM

The Les Baer equipped sniper teams are making kills to 600 yards with the 223's and the black hills heavy match ammo...will shoot under 3 inches at that distance.

It can be done with precision rifles and ammo.

RONSERESURPLUS 05-23-2008 11:01 PM

Ak Vs Ar
 
Hello all/Responce to DGunsmith

Ron L = SERESURPLUS


Yes, 600 Yards, custom gun, Custom Ammo, thats not what the average AR is nor what an Average AK is? It's comparing Porche to Yugo's? Show me 5 Folks in the US Military that can use an M-16 and het someone at 500 yanrds and kill them? Remember, I compeated with an M-1A, and I remember all the "STORIES" just never saw it done, by HUMANS!

ranger_sxt 05-24-2008 06:16 PM

Ultimately, they both have the same accuracy, if you take the nut behind the trigger out of the equation.

The AR lends itself to more accuracy from the shooter's standpoint because of a superior design of the sights...

bkt 05-24-2008 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RONSERESURPLUS (Post 25048)
Hello all/Responce to Striker and HK Big Daddy



Ron L here = SERESURPLUS

Yes, I totaly agree with H&K Big Daddy, for accuracy, the AR wins hands down! Thats due to tighter tollerences, a better made, better barrel, and components! As for folks talking about shooting out to 500 yards and killing it? Thats another Matter alltogether! Unless your talking punching holes in a paper target, forget that!

The AK will never beat the AR as far as being as accurate, but more than makes up for it in Reliability, resistenance to envornment, and lack of knowledge by users! Com-Bloc designs favor long term use and you can still see models of the AK-47 left over for early 50's in many countries and still rocking! I've seen some M-16A1's recovered in Peru, that the "Shinning path" had gotten on the Black market, these were Military Captured M16's From Viet Nam period and were sad loking and working! Many had anodizing worn through the finish, many did not still Function! Same lot of weapons had M-60 Light machine Guns, sadder condition still! In that same lot, wwre RPK, and RPD Machine guys, rusty as hell, worse for wear, but cleaned up, painted and re-issued to Poilce Units that next day! Big difference in what will last, what will be around and what stands the long test of time inthe field?

That pretty much answers your question. :)

RL357Mag 05-25-2008 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RONSERESURPLUS (Post 25181)
Hello all/Responce to DGunsmith

Ron L = SERESURPLUS


Yes, 600 Yards, custom gun, Custom Ammo, thats not what the average AR is nor what an Average AK is? It's comparing Porche to Yugo's? Show me 5 Folks in the US Military that can use an M-16 and het someone at 500 yanrds and kill them? Remember, I compeated with an M-1A, and I remember all the "STORIES" just never saw it done, by HUMANS!

Qualification at Parris Is. MCRD with standard issue M-16 A4 is 500 yd hits to a 24" target area....that's a kill or at least a severe wound, and they do graduate more than 5 Marines every 3 months...let's see an AK47, AK-74, or RPK do that!

RONSERESURPLUS 05-25-2008 10:40 AM

Ar Vs Ar
 
HELLO ALL/RESPONCE TO RL357

Ron L = SERESURPLUS


Thats what I'm Talking about, Shooting at Oversized targets, with Rifles at Prone Position, with Paper as a Target? A Far Cry from Combat and Custom Loads, with Custom Rifles is not whats happening in the "REAL WORLD"! If you like the design of the AR-15/M-16 and all GREAT, but trying to make it into a 500 yard and beyond death ray, is Just SILLY! Most folks don't shoot past 400 yard reliably hitting anything, and in "COMBAT" life blurs the sites a tad? I won't makes claims the AK can't hold if you won't hold the AR up as some sort of perfect weapon, OK? Both have thier UP's and down and it pays to remember that?


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