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Old 09-22-2011, 04:18 AM   #1
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Im wife is giving me one of those you only get one deal untel next year so iam kind of stuck in the middle. Ak-47 or Ar-15, so I like the fire power of the Ak put dont like the shights, and the Ar-15 I like that u can customies it but needs more power. Any advice would help...
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Old 09-22-2011, 04:26 AM   #2
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I have an AK. I dont have an AR. If I were to choose one it would be the AR.
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Old 09-22-2011, 04:34 AM   #3
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Well is there a Ar-15 with a bigge round ???
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BigMike, The AK is more powerful, ammo is easier to come by and cheaper, I think it's a bit stronger when it's getting beaten up, and should the SHTF, ARs and the ammo will be plentiful, either from trading, military, other civilians, or dead bodies.

Something to consider - the AR was adopted by the military for several reasons, which may or may not correspond to your wants and needs. The U.S. Military wanted to replace the M1 because of complaints by troops. They wanted a weapon that was:
Lighter,
Had less recoil,
was a smaller caliber so the troops could carry a higher number of rounds,
Had a larger capacity box magazine,
was smaller to accommodate a wider size range of soldiers.

Another reason for changing to the 5.56mm round was attrition. If an enemy soldier were killed, only a single soldier was removed from battle - a job the 7.62mm did well. However, if that same soldier were wounded, two other soldiers had to stop what they were doing and remove him to the rear echelon to be treated. It would take time for them to rest, re-equip, re-arm and get back to the line. So one wound = three soldiers removed from combat, at least temporarily.

Now, the AK is a lighter recoil than the 7.62X51 NATO, being only 7.62X39, which also means the weight falls right in the middle between that and the 5.56mm. It already has the larger box magazine at a standard 25 rounds to the ARs 30. The AK is very easy to carry and has many configurations, so the only question becomes if you are comfortable with the manual of arms. If you are not an exceptionally light or small-framed person, then it should be workable.

So if your objective is to terminate with extreme prejudice instead of wounding people so they can be removed for treatment, then the AK is the way to go with its larger bullet, similar recoil, capacity and weight. Lots of accessories (cheap, too!) from hundreds of sources that are new manufacturer to ex-Russian military.

I hope it helps!
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I've been looking at one on Buds that I like. I don't like the wood furniture or the tower sight on the AK so check this one out.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/1050/products_id/411546098
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If you like the kind of sights that the AR uses, the ghostring/peep sight, then you can purchase the Krebs custom peep sight for the AK. I'm sure there are other manufacturers for peep sights. Regarding accessories the AK is not as modular or customizeable as the AK, but you can get a really good amount of things done to it.
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Personal preference but I'd take and AR anyday over an AK. But like I say, personal preference. I do know at extended ranges, say over 300 yards, I'd much rather have someone with an AK shooting at me than an AR. Don't think many AK's would do well at Camp Perry if you know what I mean. And as far as AK ammo being more plentiful than 5.56, uh, not anywhere I shop. And if you want the shizzle, get an Armalite AR10 in 308 and be done with it. Now you have a 1000 yard AR. Try that one with an AK. And don't go quoting the boys from Lousiana and their 1000 yard one off. That wasn't an out of the box AK by any means.
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I have an AK. I dont have an AR. If I were to choose one it would be the AR.
You don't say why. Why?
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Old 09-22-2011, 01:14 PM   #9
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Another reason for changing to the 5.56mm round was attrition. If an enemy soldier were killed, only a single soldier was removed from battle - a job the 7.62mm did well. However, if that same soldier were wounded, two other soldiers had to stop what they were doing and remove him to the rear echelon to be treated.
I don't know where this comes from.
That is certainly not the rule or the reality
from my perspective, and from my memory.
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I have 2 AKs, a 47 and a 74 and a CAR-15. They are both good rifles but the AKAs are more robust and easier for cleaning and maintenance. Also, the 74 takes the newer soviet round, 5.45 x 39 that is relatively cheap and plentiful. The CAR is very accurate, especially with a scope - more so than the OAKs. In a fire fight, at reasonable ranges, both would be adequate weapons.
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