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HawkI 06-30-2010 03:06 AM

.308 Showdown
Well, this is a showdown for my wallet. I've been wanting an autoloader chambered in .308 Win but can't seem to make up my mind. I've seen Cetme's for $500-600, then on the upper really sweet M1A's for $1500-2000. Ptr-91's, FAL's, and Saigas have fallen in between. Now I've seen on the Springfield web site that the MSRP for the M1A I like (Standard model with blonde GI wood stock) is $1099, but all I've found were the same rifles for no less than $1200 elsewhere. I like the look of the Cetme and FAL out of any HK clone, but the Cetme is usually assmebled by Century Arms (-1 to them). Criteria for my ideal .308 are these:

1. Quality
2. Reliability
3. Accuracy
4. Sensitivity with mil surp ammo
5. Ergonomics
6. Bang for buck

I'd like to not spend too much over Springfield's MSRP... And am I able to buy directly from

M14sRock 06-30-2010 03:37 AM

I'm biased, but the M1A gets my top vote.
FAL's are nice but the triggers and sights are lacking.
I went through my HK-91 phase in the 80's and no need to go back.
Saigas are great, especially for the money.

Valmet 76's (not 78's) are outstanding.

Look around for a late 80's vintage M1A with a high USGI parts count, or save up a bit and get an LRB if you decide the M1A/M14 is for you.

FCross7 07-02-2010 03:14 PM

I went with other. My vote would have to go to the AR-10, namely the DPSM LR-308. Ive got the LR-308b (18" bull barrel), and love it. It's reliable after the first couple hundred round break-in period and dead accurate. There is another member here, who with handloads has gotten groups as small as .4 inches at 100 yards. And don't pay attention to the prices on the site, they can be had for under 1k.

They're definitely worth taking a look into.


CA357 07-02-2010 04:24 PM

I had a DSArms SA58 carbine. It was built like a tank and has an adjustable gas tube. I sold it to buy an M1A Scout Squad. There was no comparison. The M1A was an outstanding rifle. much nicer than the FAL. Better ergonomics, better sights, more accurate and it just felt better all the way around.

Guess which got my vote. ;)

mrm14 07-02-2010 07:37 PM

As with M14'sRock and CA357 I cast my vote for the M1A. I've had the one thats up and running now since the early 90's. I just dont see how you can beat their iron sights. They're built like a brick shat house and take quite a beating with little to no ill adverse effects in reliability or accuracy.

amoroque 07-02-2010 07:41 PM

Springfield Armory is top notch in my opinion!


Biohazard2 07-02-2010 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by amoroque (Post 309346)
Springfield Armory is top notch in my opinion!


I have a SA48 FAL (Springfield Armory) built by and for Robert Reese Jr. (his personel gun)
and she sure does shot good, however it is alittle heavy.

willfully armed 07-02-2010 10:39 PM


Originally Posted by fcross7 (Post 309250)
i went with other. My vote would have to go to the ar-10,

+1, dpms lr-308

dog2000tj 07-03-2010 12:00 AM


Originally Posted by FCross7 (Post 309250)
My vote would have to go to the AR-10, namely the DPSM LR-308. Ive got the LR-308b (18" bull barrel)


Originally Posted by willfully armed (Post 309395)
+1, dpms lr-308

+1 and +1 again :D

Phelenwolf 08-28-2010 10:05 PM

I have a Cetme and FAL right now I am waiting on saving enough money for a DPMS .308 or a Springfield M1A. As far as my Cetme is concerned I have never had a problem with it. It will eat what ever I feed it. My FAL is still waiting to go to the range since I do not have enough ammo for a good work out.

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