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 03-27-2010, 02:23 PM | #1 | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,413 |  Be very very careful Graphic Picture
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I received these pictures form a firefighter in my hunter safety class. The firearm is a Savage 10MLSS muzzle loader. Evidently this firearm uses smokeless as well as black powder. The accident happened while using smokeless powder. __________________
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| 03-27-2010, 02:26 PM | #2 | Aspiring Mall Ninja Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Here in the holler.... Posts: 2,166 |
Wow!
I just can't get anything else out....Wow!! I guess it could have been worse but...Wow! | |
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| 03-27-2010, 03:14 PM | #3 | Supporting Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Macon, Georgia Posts: 602 |
Looks as if it was fired with something stuck in the barrel?? That's one hell of a picture though. __________________
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| 03-27-2010, 04:16 PM | #4 | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 1,126 |
I see that they have 3 specific smokeless powders (by weight measure) listed for use, and ONLY to be used with a sabot/bullet combination. It would be quite interesting to know the load used in this case.
Hard for me to believe that any company would produce a firearm for the general public that allowed for the use of loose smokeless power period. 
What were they thinking? 
Agreed. WOW! __________________
What is this 100m you speak of?! Here in AMERICA we shoot in YARDS boy, a meter is something I use to measure voltage with.
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| 03-27-2010, 11:15 PM | #6 | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 1,126 |
Well, you learn something new every day....... thanks tango.
I have 2 black power revolvers and that is the extent of my wisdom on smokepoles. 
I never would have guessed there was such a thing before this thread. It still boggles my mind that the lawyers would ok these rifles with the level of stupidity out there these days. Million dollar lawsuits over hot coffee and all.....  __________________
What is this 100m you speak of?! Here in AMERICA we shoot in YARDS boy, a meter is something I use to measure voltage with.
-- Dillinger
Wer anderen etwas vorgedacht, wird jahrelang nur ausgelacht.
Begreift man die Entdeckung endlich, so nennt sie jeder selbstverständlich.
-- Wilhelm Busch
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| 03-28-2010, 12:08 AM | #7 | Supporting Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Liverpool, England Posts: 1,273 | Yes
Sean this happen with a shotgun but only with a breach in the barrel __________________
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| 03-28-2010, 01:55 PM | #8 | Dead Wolves = Good Wolves Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Rochester WI, Rochester WI Posts: 6,965 |
great example of darwinism in action. he musta been measuring blackpowder charge loadings but using smokeless instead. |
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| 03-28-2010, 03:53 PM | #9 | Supporting Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,453 |
The incident took place in Canada. That Savage muzzleloader is designed for use with smokeless powder. Those guns have been tested with loads that developed 120,000 psi with no ill effects.
The shooter claimed that he was using a recommended load of smokeless powder. There is a good chance that the shooter did not seat the sabot/bullet on the powder. | |
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| 06-05-2010, 02:43 AM | #10 | Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 35 |
I just cant understand why ANYONE would put smokeless powder in a rifle that loads a loose powder charge ... and I would bet he loaded by wt.and not vol. I load Black powder cartridge as well as muzzle loaders but I NEVER load a Black powder in any weapon that takes a loose powder I dont care if it said it was ok or not . You could say it goes against my grain . ( No pun intended ) | |
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