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hunter Joe 03-27-2010 01:23 PM

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I received these pictures form a firefighter in my hunter safety class. The firearm is a Savage 10MLSS muzzle loader. Evidently this firearm uses smokeless as well as black powder. The accident happened while using smokeless powder.

DrumJunkie 03-27-2010 01:26 PM

I just can't get anything else out....Wow!! I guess it could have been worse but...Wow!

TheOldMan 03-27-2010 02:14 PM

Looks as if it was fired with something stuck in the barrel?? That's one hell of a picture though.

Highpower 03-27-2010 03:16 PM

I see that they have 3 specific smokeless powders (by weight measure) listed for use, and ONLY to be used with a sabot/bullet combination. It would be quite interesting to know the load used in this case.

Hard for me to believe that any company would produce a firearm for the general public that allowed for the use of loose smokeless power period. :eek:
What were they thinking? :confused:

Agreed. WOW!

cpttango30 03-27-2010 05:50 PM

There are plenty of smokless muzzle loaders out there. Many are custom made with actions that are made overly strong.

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Highpower 03-27-2010 10:15 PM

Well, you learn something new every day....... thanks tango.
I have 2 black power revolvers and that is the extent of my wisdom on smokepoles. :o

I never would have guessed there was such a thing before this thread. It still boggles my mind that the lawyers would ok these rifles with the level of stupidity out there these days. Million dollar lawsuits over hot coffee and all..... :rolleyes:

Davyboy 03-27-2010 11:08 PM

Sean this happen with a shotgun but only with a breach in the barrel

JonM 03-28-2010 12:55 PM

great example of darwinism in action. he musta been measuring blackpowder charge loadings but using smokeless instead.

alsaqr 03-28-2010 02:53 PM

The incident took place in Canada. That Savage muzzleloader is designed for use with smokeless powder. Those guns have been tested with loads that developed 120,000 psi with no ill effects.

The shooter claimed that he was using a recommended load of smokeless powder. There is a good chance that the shooter did not seat the sabot/bullet on the powder.

zeskullmaster 06-05-2010 01:43 AM

I just cant understand why ANYONE would put smokeless powder in a rifle that loads a loose powder charge ... and I would bet he loaded by wt.and not vol. I load Black powder cartridge as well as muzzle loaders but I NEVER load a Black powder in any weapon that takes a loose powder I dont care if it said it was ok or not . You could say it goes against my grain . ( No pun intended )

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