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Old 06-07-2011, 10:37 PM   #11
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35 grains of fffg will give you velocities in the 925-935 range with a round ball. I load my Remington 1858 New model Army replica with a mix of fffg and fffg powder with a .451 conical and get velocities in the same range.

So we are talking 45ACP velocitys with the same weight slug. No wonder they were effective people stoppers
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35 grains of fffg will give you velocities in the 925-935 range with a round ball. I load my Remington 1858 New model Army replica with a mix of fffg and fffg powder with a .451 conical and get velocities in the same range.

So we are talking 45ACP velocitys with the same weight slug. No wonder they were effective people stoppers
Impressive. Is that with the 8" bbl?
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35 grains of fffg will give you velocities in the 925-935 range with a round ball. I load my Remington 1858 New model Army replica with a mix of fffg and fffg powder with a .451 conical and get velocities in the same range.

So we are talking 45ACP velocitys with the same weight slug. No wonder they were effective people stoppers
Could you please clarify? Thanks. I figure that you mean 3fg and 4fg powders, but it could be 2fg and 3fg. Thanks for your help, I do love my 1858.

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Default remington '58 velocities w/conical bullets

I belong to several black powder forums and had the same questions about conicals for my Remington 1858...keep in mind that when you shoot black powder...black magic can influence actual outcome....

I've never tried a .452 or .454 250 - 255gr. bullet in any of my C&B revolvers but I do shoot the Lee .456 220gr. Conical in my Pietta 1858 with a 5.5" barrel & my Uberti 1858 Millenium with 30gr. FFFG Goex charge & they are noticeable but not too hateful in recoil.

General Ballistics:

Bullet = .456 220 grain Cast Lee conical bullet .138 BC.
Powder = Goex FFFg black powder.
Primer = Remington #11

5-1/2” Barrel Average Ballistics.
30gr. Volume = 702 fps. 242 ft. lbs.

8” barrel ballistics.
.456 220 grain Cast Lee conical bullet .138 BC.
30gr. Volume = 764 fps. 286 ft. Lbs.

As the National Park Service Ranger at Gettysburg told our tour...keep in mind that there is not one soldier buried here who was killed with smokeless gun powder. Black Powder guns will kill people today just as effectively as they did 150 years ago.

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