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Rex in OTZ 02-18-2012 09:05 AM

US mfg Cap & ball revolvers....Not Colt or Remington
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Whitney Navy 1858


Whitney Two-Trigger Percussion Revolver:





Peperbox Allan Thurber

Stocking Co

Rogers & Spencer


Robbins & Lawrence


Metropolitan Arms Navy model revolver

Maynard - Massachussets Arms C

Manhattan Fire Arms

Josiah Ells

Cooper Firearms Mfg

Continental Arms C - Norwich CT.


Bliss & Goodyear

Thomas Bacon

Charles R. Alsop

Allen and Wheelock 1858

Allen & Weelock Model 44 Army Hammer center 6 shot

C.B. Allen Cochran Turret Revolver by C.B. Allen

Rex in OTZ 02-18-2012 09:10 AM

Revolvers used by confederate troops during the civil war
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We have on the left, upwards: Joslyn (rare), North&Savage, Savage "Number Eight" and Rogers & Spencer.

In the box a Dragoon Colt 3rd model. On right-hand side we see Pettingill, Starr simple action, Allen & Wheelock with cartridge with a funny system of ejection, and Starr double action. All gauges 44.

Below the box there is Savage Navy calibre .36, then two others of which I do not remember any more the name. They were not used all for the army, but they all are of the "military" models.

Rex in OTZ 04-23-2016 10:15 PM

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Nichols & Childs Belt revolver manufactured in the late 1830's.
caliber .34, percussion, 7" barrel. The total production was limited to about 25. Marked "NICHOLS & CHILDS / PATENT /CONWAY / MASS." on the left side of frame.
This is one of the earliest American revolvers. Rufus Nichols and Edward Childs patented their revolver 24, April 1838, the 707th patent to be issued by the new U.S. Patent Office after their devastating fire in 1836. The patent covered the mechanical seal between the face of the cylinder and the rear of the barrel.
Note that there is a raised cone shaped lip around each of the six chambers in the cylinder. There is a corresponding conical dish at the rear of the barrel. When the lever on the left side of the frame is raised, the spring around the cylinder pin forces the cylinder away from the barrel, towards the rear. The cylinder can then be rotated to place a loaded chamber in line with the barrel.
The nipples are integral and the cylinder was either a five or six round with this revolver having a five round.
When the lever is pressed down, a cam in the frame forces the cylinder forward forming a gas seal on the breech end of the barrel.
The metal parts of the revolver are iron except the tiny trigger guard, back strap and blade front sight, which are German silver. The rear sight is adjustable for elevation.

Rex in OTZ 04-23-2016 10:20 PM

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Revolver by V. G. W. Libeau, New Orleans, 1847.
No serial #, cal. .34, percussion, 4 11/16" octagonal barrel with dove-tailed front-sight and flush gold inlaid on top flat NEW ORLEANS.
12-groove-rifling with rapid twist. 1 15/16" five-shot cylinder with unusual individual countersunk spring system, applying pressure an each nipple and allowing incorrect size percussion caps.
Forward of cylinder periphery over each chamber and each nipple springs engraved sequentially 1 to 5, a feature shared with some of the pre-Colt-Paterson prototypes. As with a Paterson, the cylinder revolves with cocking the hammer "single action

locutus 04-23-2016 11:59 PM

Nice post, Rex. Thank you.:)

Rex in OTZ 04-24-2016 03:58 AM

Austin T. Freeman Army Model Revolver
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Oh thats right I forgot to mention Austin T. Freeman Army Model Revolver.
Made by Hoard's Armory, Watertown New York, caliber .44 percussion, 6-shot cylinder, 7 1/2-inch round barrel with mortised front sight, on bridge marked FREEMAN'S PAT. DECR 9. 1862 HOARD'S ARMORY, WATERTOWN, N.Y.
Blued finish with case-hardened hammer and lever, oil-finished saw handle walnut grips.
Approximately 2,000 of these revolvers manufactured. The solid frame and the recessed nipples in cylinder were prominent marketing features of the Freeman revolvers. Records indicate only about 2000 were produced, hence the rarity, as a Civil War Era Secondary Weapon.

deathkricket 04-24-2016 06:39 AM

I find some of these old designs very intresting and some of them look to be decent shooting designs.

Rex in OTZ 04-24-2016 07:05 AM

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Another pepper box type design that was pushed aside by colt type revolvers.

Samuel Robbins and Richard Lawrence of Windsor, Vermont, is very interesting for its conception and the way it works.

The inventors, two less known American gunmakers, realized a very reliable and well-made pocket weapon that became very popular (1851 and 1854) total of about 7,000 of these pepperboxes were manufactured in three variations and two calibers. With this example the barrel hinges down for loading
but was rapidly pushed away by the massive invasion of Colt revolvers, which in these years were at the top of their success.

Rex in OTZ 04-24-2016 07:28 AM

Blittkowski .44cal Needle Fire Revolver*
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THIS IS THE ONLY KNOWN specimen of an AMERICAN needle fire revolver. Gustav Adolph Blittkowski of New York City held three patents on guns; five shot revolver was muzzle loading. This is a small revolver for the large cartridge. The needle fire cartridge was a self-contained cartridge with the primer mounted on the base of the bullet. The needle struck through the powder charge and was in that position when the charge exploded. This was the fault with the system as the heat and corrosive effects of the explosion weakened the needle, often causing them to break. The front of the cylinder is covered by a heavy shield to prevent injuries from the multiple discharges, with a hole on the left side for loading. The loading lever, mounted on the front end of the cylinder pin, was just like those found on normal percussion revolvers. EwjqtYXU4KbMAhUC72MKHVVGBxsQFghEMAo&url=http%3A%2F Fneedle%2520fires%2FBlittkowski%2520Needle%2520Fir e%2520Revolver%2FBlittkowski%2520Needle%2520Fire%2 520Revolver.html&usg=AFQjCNF9M4sYHRundZ9Cc8TzgCi58 kAXDQ

Hawg 04-24-2016 04:45 PM

The Freeman patent was bought by Rogers & Spencer who were already making the Pettengill. The front half of the Pettengill and the rear half of the Freeman(minus the spur)became the Rogers & Spencer.

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