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Old 07-10-2014, 12:29 PM   #11
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A large number of the original old ones had no markings and were often made by local craftsmen. It is likely if this is old that you will never find who or when it was made.
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A large number of the original old ones had no markings and were often made by local craftsmen. It is likely if this is old that you will never find who or when it was made.
This is a correct statement & if you have a picture of it that far back it may very well be an original, hang on to it & cherish it. Mount it along with the picture, hang her up & be proud of her !..................
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if it is old dont shoot it. even if its a new repro in that condition the base of the barrel where the powder sits is almost certainly compromised by rust base solely on looking at the outside of the barrel. if the previous owner did not clean and maintain the outside the insides are going to be muuuuuch worse.

black powder guns dont kaboom along the barrel they kaboom at the base where your face is at the lockwork.
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Hi guys,

Pretty new here. I'm sure you guys get threads like this all the time but I recently was given a rifle that belonged to my great great.. great grandfather. I've done quit a bit of research but am having a hard time figuring out what rifle it is.. If anyone could help ID it I'd really appreciate it! There are no markings stamps or numbers anywhere. It kinda looks like a Hawkins fr what I've found.. any ideas?

Thanks in advanced!
What a Jewel, My cousin has a later model. Bring that to a musem that has old firearms, as for markings, the FBI can bring back to life the etchings that are worn out. Your looking at one of the first ever produced if its as old as you say it is..................Maybe the original, then copied and set forth the hawkins legend.
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Thanks for the replies guys! A lot of great advice! It is definitely not operable so I certainly won't be shooting it. I'll have better pics when I get it reassembled. Here's the lock and the only marking it really has. You can see the 2 and the L but just ad smidgen of what's possible a letter before the L. Thanks again guys!
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Def. not a repo. ,,,,,,,,,,Don't ruin the screws or anything for that matter. AND DON""T REFURBISH...........................The FBI can raise those letters. Or there may be some books still left around to give you an idea of the year and maker. Do more research and what ever you do. DON"T RUIN THE ORIGINAL AS IS FINISH.................................
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Wow! Looks as if there are markings in the lock plate.
Great photo!
Vinegar wash may allow some image.
Wash really well after, though.
Check with infrared and UV light with the above wash.
Light heat with the vinegar--just winging it here..
might be worth a try.
E-mail a museum.
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It is definitely not a Hawken, not with a back action lock and single barrel key. It looks to have been a half stock trade rifle but the barrel has been whacked off really short.
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Definitely won't be messing with the finish. I guess emailing a museum will be my best bet. While I'd love to know where and when it came from, I'd be satisfied with just knowing what kind of rifle it is haha
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Are the nose cap and buttplate pewter? They sort of have that look.

You might want to check and see if it is loaded. Quite a few old muzzleloaders
were kept with a charge in them. Drop the ramrod or a dowel down the barrel,
note where it stops. Lay the rod on the outside and see how deep it went in the bore.
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