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Old 07-10-2014, 02:52 AM   #1
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Hi guys,

Pretty new here. I'm sure you guys get threads like this all the time but I recently was given a rifle that belonged to my great great.. great grandfather. I've done quit a bit of research but am having a hard time figuring out what rifle it is.. If anyone could help ID it I'd really appreciate it! There are no markings stamps or numbers anywhere. It kinda looks like a Hawkins fr what I've found.. any ideas?

Thanks in advanced!

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Old 07-10-2014, 03:04 AM   #2
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Are there holes in the bottom of the barrel where loops would be mounted for the ram rod to go through? It does look a lot like my Hawken. But mine is a reproduction.

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Unfortunately no, just the hole for it to go into. That's really the only difference I see between other hawkens and this rifle.. aside from some actually saying Hawkins on it.

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Looks like a reproduction Hawken`s rifle to me..........Pull the barrel off & look on the bottom of barrel for markings !..............

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As far as I understand it it's an original. I have an old black and white of my great great great gramps holding it on his horse. Not very educated on black powder rifles so I guess you never know. I disassembled it and checked every inch of it for any kind of markings. Not a thing on the bottom of the barrel :\

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As others said check underside of barrel for marks. Also, check for markings on your lock for the maker of that as well. With those 2 pieces of info you'll be able to hopefully research it further.

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Thanks for the reply guys! While there is nothing under the barrel.. It may not be much to go on but I did find something on the back of the lock. A stamp of the number 2. I'll continue my research

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Looks like i found another stamp on the back of the lock! After a good cleaning I found what looks like part of a D and a definitive L! Due to wear I can't tell for sure if it's a D but it looks to be. Thanks again guys

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Look at that barrel REALLY hard--some times the markings were very shallow. If there are no marks,
it's entirely possible it's a gun produced by a local gunsmith, and you will never know which one.
They built them literally out of a "lock, stock and barrel". Locks were commonly purchased or
re-purposed from an older gun. Yours is a bit unusual with that back action lock---the lock could
have come from an old shotgun--or maybe the smith just liked that style. Darned thing could date anywhere
from the early 1800's to yesterday. If you can date the picture of your great great Grandfather holding it, it would
be safe to say it's at least that old.

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Lots of up close, in focus, high resolution pictures can go a long way. Time to break out the camera and give it a close up.

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