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NukeEmAll235 01-12-2012 12:40 PM

single shot gun
 
Hello everybody. I'm 17 from Kosovo. I'm far away from any chance of having firearm, but I really wish to have one. I've made a home made single shot pistol. I found a fine steel pipe-inner diameter 8mm, wall thickness-4mm. It kinda reminds me of 357 sig barrel. The gun uses pyrotechnic ignitor and 3 ni-cd batteries. It looks like HK usp compact. Currently I fill it with 1/3 home made black powder(perchlorate instead of nitrate) It penetrates more then 5cm of wood and the recoil is much stranger then glock19. It hurts after the shot. I plan making desert eagle also and a bayonet rifle. My question is how do I find out how much powder is safe. I cant get any data on internal ballistics. Sons of guns on discovery doesn't show any real gunsmithing at all, its a worthless show. Here I may go to jail if I create a device with uses combat ammunition to produce wounding effect(cant remember the exact definition) but if it doesn't use ammunition its not considered a weapon. You guys have the experience so Ill be grateful for any advice.

c3shooter 01-12-2012 03:04 PM

Impossible for us to give you an actual answer. There are too many variables here- the strength of the metal used for a barrel (and how the barrel is closed), the weight and fit of a projectile, and the energy of the home made powder.

Please remember there is a very fine line of difference between a firearm and a hand grenade. Not a safe practice if you want to make it to 18.

NukeEmAll235 01-12-2012 03:28 PM

I also have 0.50cal pipe. Wall thickness-8mm. That's quite a lot I think. I can try to load for 20kj shot. It only takes 20g powder. But I want a gun not a remote cannon :(

Rex in OTZ 01-12-2012 09:17 PM

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Hinawa revolver of the Edo era

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Who woulda thought of Japanese Samurai carrying these around before Sam colt and the percussion cap fired revolver?
The arquebus, a matchlock gun, was introduced by the Portuguese via a Chinese pirate ship in 1543 and the Japanese succeeded in assimilating it within a decade. Groups of mercenaries with mass-produced arquebuses began playing a critical role.
By the end of the Sengoku Period, several hundred thousand firearms existed in Japan and massive armies numbering over 100,000 clashed in battles.
In 1592, and again in 1597, Toyotomi Hideyoshi decided to invade China (唐入り) through Korea and mobilized an army of 160,000 peasants and samurai.(See Hideyoshi's invasions of Korea, 朝鮮征伐.) Taking advantage of its mastery of the arquebus, Japanese samurai made major gains in most of Korea (Kato Kiyomasa did in fact enter Manchuria, but withdrew when it was clear he had outpaced the rest of the Japanese invasion force), but were unable to advance all the way through Korea into China due to the Japanese navy's defeats at sea at the hands of the Korean navy (resulting in the Japanese supply lines being severed) and the entry of Ming Chinese troops into Korea. A few of the more famous samurai generals of this war were Katō Kiyomasa, Konishi Yukinaga, and Shimazu Yoshihiro.
Oda Nobunaga revolutionized musket tactics in Japan by splitting loaders and shooters and assigning three guns to a shooter at the Battle of Nagashino in 1575. (Popular records stating he used a Maurice-style three-line formation are incorrect according to onsite evidence.) While many believe that during the Sakoku the political power of the samurai led to muskets being banned in Japan, this is a misconception brought on by romantic views. In actuality, the Japanese were fully capable of manufacturing their own muskets, and the shogunate even created several political positions to oversee their manufacture and inventory. These guns would be widely used during Hideyoshi's unification of Japan and later the Japanese invasions of Korea in 1592.
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Rex in OTZ 01-12-2012 09:45 PM

rolling your own
 
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As a kid I salvaged the projectiles and propellant from dud roman candles and had all sorts of primer experiments with the volitile tip solution of the strike anywhere match.
turns out to be pretty stout stuff to use in home made cannon.

Why dont you buy a Dixie Gun Works assemble it yourself percussion handgun?
percussion caps were easy enuf to make by hand......Takes allot of time though, involves useing Kids paper cap gun caps and cups you form your self from disc's of metal cut from a soft drink can and a paper punch, using a wood board with a series of progressively deeper holes one can fashon passible percussion caps that way.



c3shooter 01-12-2012 11:01 PM

Rex- did you miss the part about being in Kosovo? Or the part about being 17?

Rex in OTZ 01-13-2012 02:18 AM

Its Kosovo not the stone age
 
Yes I even know where Kosovo is on the map, I knew even before today, as for 17? mabe thats a issue in New Jersey or California, I was making corncob hand gernades and firing them behind hen house before I was old enuf to attend to Highschool.

I'd say try and give the young fellow in Kosovo as much support as we can.
We dont want him breaking any laws there, he may be the next John Browning for all we know.
Some American carpenters use a gas powerd (ignition fired) nail gun that use a gas fuel cartridge and a electric firing mechanism to fire nails in lumber.
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If I can help nukemall 235 with finding ways to operate within the limitations he is forced to endure, I'll do my very best to help with ideas.
its ashame American's are so tight lipped about helping a Kosovo lad with some wholesome recreation.


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I seen a youtube vid of two Russian Guys firing a PVC Plastic Spudgun (potato gun)







NukeEmAll235 01-13-2012 10:30 AM

Actually I have two weapons on that principle as home defence weapons. I'm into them for like 5 years. I'll just say for my last two-light, totally cheap, totally reliable, 400j+ shots. Only problem is the oversized length. If I make it look more like an assault rifle it'll have the power of 0.22 at best. If I make it like a pistol-no better then a nice air gun.

FullautoUSA 05-18-2013 12:44 AM

Don't do anything against the law. I don't know what type of punishments they give people in Kosovo, but it's in eastern Europe so I assume it isn't fun, don't do anything without being 10000000000000000% sure, I repeat 10000000000000000% sure that what you're doing is legal.

MisterMcCool 05-18-2013 12:46 AM

What brought this up?


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