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Old 12-22-2013, 12:41 AM   #1
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Default Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Caliber Revolver $170 at Cabelas

Cabelas has the Pietta Model 1851 "Confederate Navy" .44 Caliber Revolver (with extra cylinder) on sale in store for $170 plus they applied a current $20 coupon to drop it to $150. Regular price is $200 without the 2nd cylinder.

I've never gotten around to a black powder gun but couldn't resist this sale. I know the brass receiver won't take hot loads but honestly a lot of smoke will be fine with me.

The Pietta is fairly well finished and the action seems strong and timed well. I like the octagonal barrel and brass receiver. Definitely not up to the high end reproductions but not bad at all for the money. I probably won't take it out and fire it until spring, which will give me time to get up to speed on black powder shooting. No doubt it'll lead to more guns.

Here's a link but the online sale is $10 more than in store and no extra cylinder.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Black-Powder/Pistols-Revolvers%7C/pc/104792580/c/104701680/sc/104503680/Pietta-Model-1851-Confederate-Navy-44-Caliber-Revolver/740536.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse.cmd%3FN %3D1100201%26WTz_l%3DSBC%253BBRprd740536

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There was never a "Brass" framed 1851 Navy .44 caliber pistol. That is a Cabelafederate Revolver.

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I have the same gun. It is a lot of fun. I use a 9mm shell full of powder then a 40 S&W shell of cream of wheat on top. I use a 451 round ball. I top it all off with a little bit of Crisco to prevent chain fires.

That is a really nice load. Quite accurate. Powerful enough to be fun. But not enough to damage the gun. Have a good time. And don't you dare wait until spring to shoot it! Grab your coat and Man Up!

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I have the same gun. It is a lot of fun. I use a 9mm shell full of powder then a 40 S&W shell of cream of wheat on top. I use a 451 round ball. I top it all off with a little bit of Crisco to prevent chain fires.

That is a really nice load. Quite accurate. Powerful enough to be fun. But not enough to damage the gun. Have a good time. And don't you dare wait until spring to shoot it! Grab your coat and Man Up!
Good point! But for now I'm a wimp. Shoveled 4" of new snow off the driveway and sidewalk today. I'll wait for a nice day! Thanks for the info. I'll play around with light loads and probably never go over 20 grains.
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There was never a "Brass" framed 1851 Navy .44 caliber pistol. That is a Cabelafederate Revolver.
True, that's why I used quotes in Pietta Model 1851 "Confederate Navy" .44 Caliber Revolver.

But the South was desperate for firearms and used anything. No doubt if this had been available during the Civil War they would have used it!
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They did not use brass in the frames back then but they did use bronze. Brass is cheaper and not as strong, I would bet that a bronze frame built to the same specs would be plenty strong for BP loads. Steel is better of course, but the Confederacy did not have a good supply of it back in the day.

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The "Chain" fire stories are greatly over stated. Chain fire which refers to a second chamber ignition after the barrel aligned chamber is discharged. This is not caused by the chamber mouth igniting or prevented by cooking oil.
This is caused by the Parabolic effect of the initial cap explosion. It is the same principle as a flintlock rifle. The passage of the first "Flash" passing over a poorly fitted cap or worn "Nipple". It is more often due to a cap falling off the next chamber. Just as in a vented flintlock the ignition is created by hot gas not flame. When this happens you never know it anyway. The projectile goes about 12 feet and hits the ground.
Back in the day Colt or Remington never recommended cooking oil or breakfast food for use in their hand guns. Can you imagine a hungry "Reb" putting Grits and lard in his pistol? Not likely. The reason the chambers are deep is they were loaded with paper cartridges with conical bullets not round balls.

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True, that's why I used quotes in Pietta Model 1851 "Confederate Navy" .44 Caliber Revolver.

But the South was desperate for firearms and used anything. No doubt if this had been available during the Civil War they would have used it!

They had the means to make them but I'm sure the reason they didn't is that they knew the bronze frames wouldn't hold up to heavy loads. A lot of the original 36's have battered recoil shields from using heavy loads in them. The South did make some 44's but the frames were iron.
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Hey Nightstalker, the gun in question has a brass frame. It can not fire full powered loads. They will stretch the frame. However the ram is too short to properly seat the ball on top of the recommended load. There would be an air gap between the powder and the ball. That is a no no. Bad juju. That is why I use the cream of wheat as a filler. I also have a steel framed 1858. I fill those chambers with powder. That gun can handle it. I use tight fitting nipples and I use Crisco. I don't believe you can over do it safety wise. I have never had a chain fire.

No offense intended. But people often tell me I am more careful shooting that I need to be. I will never tell someone that they are being too careful. I am an IDPA safety officer, by the way.

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