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BWilder 12-18-2012 05:29 AM

patches
 
im going to shoot blackpowder soon for the first time, i am wondering if it matters if i buy lubricated patches or dry ones? do i mix it up every couple shots?

c3shooter 12-18-2012 06:03 AM

Cloth patches need lube. If you are buying dry, you lube them.

nitestalker 12-18-2012 06:21 AM

Find the thickness you need. Lets say you need a .015 thickness. Go to the fabric shop or Walmart. Buy a yard of cotton pillow ticking .015 thickness. You can then cut your own patches very cheap. Pick up a bottle of Hoppes BP Plus cleaner and patch lube to wet your patches. Precut lubed patches cost over 10 cents each. You can cut your cost with a much better patch.:)

BWilder 12-18-2012 06:22 PM

ok thanks. so i should put a lubed patch for every shot?

c3shooter 12-18-2012 07:35 PM

That would be yes. Lube makes it easier for the bullet to travel thru the barrel and softens black powder fouling of the bore.

And VERY good advice on the pillow ticking. Stick with cotton, no synthetics (melt)

orangello 12-18-2012 07:37 PM

Gotsta have some lube for patches. Would you wanna go down a dry waterslide? :eek:


Traditions had a basic operations guide in their owner's manual at one time...
edit* This is the Traditions manual for sidelocks (cap & flint); it is pretty basic but lists loading instructions on the 18th or 19th page of the manual. http://www.traditionsfirearms.com/cmsAdmin/uploads/PercussionFlintlock_manual.pdf

Some may debate their load suggestions, but they are a good starting point, IMO.

I prefer to buy the ziploc bag of pre-lubed yellow patches, but my shooting volume is low.

303tom 12-19-2012 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWilder (Post 1055960)
im going to shoot blackpowder soon for the first time, i am wondering if it matters if i buy lubricated patches or dry ones? do i mix it up every couple shots?

Depends on what you are shooting, ball you need a patch & buy lubed patches, conical bullets you don`t need a patch..............

nitestalker 12-19-2012 12:52 AM

Make sure you use the correct thickness. It is most important that you use a patch to ball ratio that seals the bore when loaded. A common example would be a .50 Caliber rifle has a .500" bore. with a groove of .005" We would load a .490 ball with a .015" patch giving us a ball and seal diameter .505". In other words make sure you know bore size and select the proper patch and ball. When you fire the rifle if the patch catches fire smokes and burns you do not have a seal. The patch should not be burned after it is fired. A starting load for a .50 caliber rifle would be 1 grs. of powder per caliber= 50 grs. in a 50 caliber. Most Perc. rifles use a #11 cap.:)

BWilder 12-19-2012 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitestalker (Post 1057137)
Make sure you use the correct thickness. It is most important that you use a patch to ball ratio that seals the bore when loaded. A common example would be a .50 Caliber rifle has a .500" bore. with a groove of .005" We would load a .490 ball with a .015" patch giving us a ball and seal diameter .505". In other words make sure you know bore size and select the proper patch and ball. When you fire the rifle if the patch catches fire smokes and burns you do not have a seal. The patch should not be burned after it is fired. A starting load for a .50 caliber rifle would be 1 grs. of powder per caliber= 50 grs. in a 50 caliber. Most Perc. rifles use a #11 cap.:)

that helps out alot thanks! i have a .50 cal rifle

7.62 Man 12-19-2012 01:40 AM

Are you using a side lock muzzleloader or a in-line & what brand?


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