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Joshua M. Smith 10-04-2010 10:48 PM

Need VooDoo Man (I Need Patches Read Please!)
 
Hello,

I'm barely keeping my groups in the 9 ring at 50 yards. Granted, I can't see worth crap, but I'm not liking the looks of a few patches that came from my rifle.

Patch material is .008" pillow ticking (off one of my old pillows), compressible to .0075". Load is 70gn Pyrodex FFg.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...nolinmoist.jpg
Lube moistened patch (just enough to feel it)...

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...anolinsat2.jpg
Lube saturated patch (can see it standing and wets things it touches...

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...anolinsat1.jpg
Same as the second pic...

I was using old T-shirt material, but was told that it was too loosely woven. However, I was getting decent accuracy and it was holding together like the number two and three patches with just spit lubed.

I think this stuff is just old and thin, and blowing apart. I know I find lots of lil' pieces in front of the rifle if they're not saturated.

The balls are supposed to cast at .490", but they mic at .492".

Thoughts?

Thanks,

Josh

quigleysharps4570 10-04-2010 11:38 PM

A felt wad will stop that. Course I'd go to Wal-Mart or the likes and buy new pillow ticking too.

jpattersonnh 10-05-2010 12:11 AM

I used only Natural flannel and bore butter to lube my ML. I started buying pre-lubed patches as it was actually cheaper. I never shot at 50 yards. 100 was the minimum w/ patched round ball in a .50. 1:48.
http://possibleshop.com/s-s-patch.html

nwhunter 10-22-2010 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by quigleysharps4570 (Post 362937)
A felt wad will stop that. Course I'd go to Wal-Mart or the likes and buy new pillow ticking too.


I agree! It sounds like he's blowing by those thin patches.
Like you say, A felt wad will stop that, but pillow ticking, or even drill cloth should solve it also.If you don't have felt wads, wasp nest makes a good over powder material. Make sure the owners are gone before collecting:D

Might try some crisco, or olive oil for lube.

Joshua M. Smith 10-22-2010 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nwhunter (Post 372520)
I agree! It sounds like he's blowing by those thin patches.
Like you say, A felt wad will stop that, but pillow ticking, or even drill cloth should solve it also.If you don't have felt wads, wasp nest makes a good over powder material. Make sure the owners are gone before collecting:D

Might try some crisco, or olive oil for lube.

Wasp nest? Really? Why, what's that do?

When I use wads (like, if I might leave the rifle loaded and de-capped), I just use a jumbo cotton ball.

I get a nice dandelion puff when I touch off, too! :D

Josh

Fisherking 11-25-2010 02:24 PM

When you buy pillow ticking I get .015 and wash it . This will tighten up the weave and bring it up to about .018. I use 1 part Balitol and 3 parts water. The Balistol will emulsify with the water. Soak your patches in this , then lay out to dry overnight. This is the best combo I have found .
Hope this helps.
F.K.

dunerunner 11-25-2010 03:16 PM

Used to get all my gear from Native American Indian Craft Supplies- Indian Craft Supply- Buckskinner Supply!!

I use this material Old Time Fabric - Blue Stripe Ticking | | Crazy Crow Trading Post for my patches saturated with #9, unwashed with the seizing still in it.

Fisherking 11-25-2010 05:32 PM

Dunerunner is that hoppies #9 Black powder sovent or the regular hoppies #9?
Thanks F.K.

dunerunner 12-12-2010 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fisherking (Post 392060)
Dunerunner is that hoppies #9 Black powder sovent or the regular hoppies #9?
Thanks F.K.

This a here one Hoppe's 9 - No. 9 Plus

rdstrain49 12-20-2010 11:45 PM

.015 patch should solve your problem.. The patch is blowing apart due to blow by. Wads are fine in a revolver, not in a rifle. If you can't find Irish linen, get the tightest weave cotton you can find. I take my micrometer to the fabric store and in a few min. Iv'e got my patch material. Just a reminder, there is a lot of good information on the 'net, there is also a whole lot of crap. Verify to your satisfaction prior to shooting.:)


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