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tommybommy66 02-03-2009 08:14 PM

Need some info on my 1861 Enfield Musket
 
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Hi, I am trying to sell a 1861 Enfield musket/muzzleloader. What I really need to know is if this is a re-manufacture or an original. See the pics below.

It is in very good condition for its age. Its wood stock is one piece. It has what looks to be an original sling on it and has ramrod. .58 caliber. It is definitely shootable.

The top reads:
ARMI SAN PAOLO-BRESCIA-ITALY
CAL. 58-3 1/2 DRAMS BLACK POWDER ONLY

Engraved by the hammer, there is a crown, and underneath the crown it reads:

1861
ENFIELD


Also, any other info that I should know would be helpful. This gun is also for sale so offers are welcome. Thanks

McNabb11b 02-04-2009 05:09 AM

I don't think that an original would specify between black and smokeless powder.

Hawg 02-09-2009 10:48 AM

It's a reproduction.

nfafan 03-11-2009 05:24 AM

And I'd doubt the Italians were supplying Enfields to the CSA back then...

robocop10mm 03-11-2009 01:14 PM

If that is an original, it is in better condition than the finest museum example in existance.

1861 03-13-2009 01:31 AM

yep , replica

crazy_dude88 02-08-2010 11:23 AM

Is rifle still for sale?
 
Hello, My name is Ryan. My wife and I are just starting out in civil war re-enacting, and I was wondering if your rifle was still for sale, and for how much. Location? Thanks for your time.

Sincerely,
Ryan Buenconsejo

mag318 02-09-2010 07:17 PM

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The finest reproductions were made by Parker Hale in Birmingham England and imported in the 60s/70s. These were extremely good quality and used the original Enfield patterns.

Slickrick214 02-28-2010 02:39 AM

It is definitely a repro. First off as mentioned the originals would not have markings to distinguish between black power and smokeless powder. At the time black powder is the only thing they had. Also they didn't call it black powder it was referred to as gun powder. Only with the invention of smokeless powder was there a need to distinguish between the two and that was long after 1861. Secondly as mentioned Italy was not supplying Enfield’s to any country, England was. The Third and final point is the markings on the lock plate are completely wrong. If it was an original it probably would have been made by Tower Arms of England. The correct markings are as follows- on the left hand side of the hammer it should have a crown over the name "Tower." On the right hand side of the hammer it should have the manf name and the city. No where on an original would you see the crown over Enfield then the date. Pictured below is an antique 1853 Enfield and you can see the difference.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g1...t-rifle-15.jpg

MUZZLESMOKE 03-03-2010 03:53 AM

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Yes it is a reproduction, still a good looking rifle. During the Civil War.... the South Sent gun buyers over seas. The went to France, England, Germany and other Eastern European country's. The bought as many old muskets they could. Trying always to buy 58cal. to try to only have one caliber. So they had no problems as far as supply. Sometimes they didn't get 58s, but they tried to stay with 58s. The south had no steel to make rifles or hand guns. That is why they had a lot of brass framed revolvers. That is why they went over seas. After about a year the Union started doing the same. Not because the lack of muskets. But, to try to buy them before the Rebs.
If you look at my avatar, that is an original 1857 Tower of England
Attachment 10985 Two more pictures of my Tower. However this one
I think came from the Middle East. Although all
Attachment 10986 writing is in English, not Arabic. Which they say
there should be. For me I don't care where it
comes from. It is 157 years old. And fun to
shoot.


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