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gr8oldguy 09-25-2013 06:42 PM

Need some help with 1858 Remington Army
 
I have a new steel frame Pietta 1858. I have never fired it. The recommended load for this revolver in the Pietta manual is 12-15 gr black powder or a substitute. Right now I have a pound of American Pioneer. Here's my question. Everything I've read indicates that when loading a bp revolver, there should be no voids in the chamber. I interpret that as a compressed load. The recommended load from Pietta will not fill the cylinder chamber up enough, even with a wonder wad, to create a compressed load. The bullet rammer will only push a bullet deep enough to be almost flush with the cylinder. Any advise would be greatly appreciated. thanks for your time

orangello 09-25-2013 07:02 PM

Use more powder; they hedge on the too "safe" side in their recommended loads. I have a Pietta 1858, steel frame also; I usually load 20-25 grains. I cheat by using a empty .38 special cartridge case to eyeball my load; I don't pack it full though. I shoot Pyrodex P.

If you don't want to use more powder, some people use some other powders to fill the void; cream of wheat is one that comes to mind.


edit* If you have a cool leather holster for the 1858, DON'T leave the revolver in it when not in use. It will ruin the finish on the revolver.

c3shooter 09-25-2013 08:28 PM

Load is way too light. Depending on bullet/ wad, 22-30 gr would be more appropriate.

mountainman13 09-25-2013 09:15 PM

I wouldn't recommend anything over 35 grains. The above suggestions are dead on.
Also recommend you top off your loaded cylinder with grease, Crisco is fine. This prevents a chain fire which is very very bad news.

orangello 09-25-2013 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mountainman13 (Post 1383233)
Also recommend you top off your loaded cylinder with grease, Crisco is fine. This prevents a chain fire which is very very bad news.

I use the "wonder wads" under the lead, instead of the Crisco on top.

mountainman13 09-25-2013 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orangello (Post 1383238)

I use the "wonder wads" under the lead, instead of the Crisco on top.

I don't use wads at all in mine, not that I would recommend the practice. I know a few guys that use both.

towboater 09-25-2013 10:29 PM

I believe using a ball larger than the cylinder prevents chain fires. Be sure your shaving off a nice ring of lead. Using the correct size cap is another.
I load powder, wad, (or lube pill) then ball.
How to make yer own lube pills. http://blackpowdersmoke.com/oldcoots/index.php?topic=390.0

towboater 09-25-2013 10:29 PM

Is it the 36 Cal??

orangello 09-25-2013 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by towboater (Post 1383328)
Is it the 36 Cal??

:eek: OH CRAP! I assumed he had the .44 like mine. If he has the 36, he will want to IGNORE my recommendation on loads, since they were for the 44.


edit* I think he does have the .44 model like mine, so my load recommendation should be fine. The manual only recommends 9-12 grains for the .36 model, the "12-15" (that he mentioned) is their suggestion for the .44 model.

http://www.pietta.us/pdf/Manuale_Avancarica_ENG.pdf

gr8oldguy 09-25-2013 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orangello (Post 1383366)
:eek: OH CRAP! I assumed he had the .44 like mine. If he has the 36, he will want to IGNORE my recommendation on loads, since they were for the 44.


edit* I think he does have the .44 model like mine, so my load recommendation should be fine. The manual only recommends 9-12 grains for the .36 model, the "12-15" (that he mentioned) is their suggestion for the .44 model.

http://www.pietta.us/pdf/Manuale_Avancarica_ENG.pdf

My bad, it's a .44. I guess I took it for granted that all 1858 Armys were .44.


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